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CB HI 10-27-09 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_quadzilla (Post 9937373)
Fantastically enough, beacuse of my Garmin I can prove what happened =P.
Or at least that no curve was involved...

Cool, then if we compare the Garmin to Google Earth, we can determine the airborne altitude you obtained.

Mr_quadzilla 10-27-09 11:28 PM

I looked at my Garmin, I was going 25 then 0 really quick then a little bump of speed. Then there is a HR spike from AdrenalinAnd I just checked and there is a tiny bump from bouncing . Heh.

grimace308 10-28-09 02:02 AM

im sorry man, but it looks like youre not too bad off, as far as the body goes...the wallet being another story all together.

235lb guy is right. over on the clydesdale forum, we dont hear of this happening too often and by often i mean never, if you get my drift.

Metzinger 10-28-09 02:21 AM

Quadzilla, I'd forward this story to C'dale.
Forks aren't supposed to break like that.
They might surprise you with a new front end, you never know.
Those forks only cost 15 cents to manufacture, right?

CB HI 10-28-09 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Metzinger (Post 9938992)
Quadzilla, I'd forward this story to C'dale.
Forks aren't supposed to break like that.
They might surprise you with a new front end, you never know.
Those forks only cost 15 cents to manufacture, right?

I would hope C'dale would not even think twice about replacing a fork with only 500 miles on it.

Mr_quadzilla 10-28-09 03:41 AM

The shop said Cracknfail may claim it's a repair replacement and try to recover the cost of the fork =( That would make me very sad.

Artkansas 10-28-09 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mr_quadzilla (Post 9938052)
You're right I hadn't thought of that. Steel wouldn't have failed so completely like that.

So I guess that CF riders aren't big on doing bunny hops.

gerv 10-28-09 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by mickey85 (Post 9938148)
let alone for the guy at the LBS telling me that a CF bike has to "break in" and you'll hear clicks and pops as the resin settles...

:eek:

Square & Compas 10-28-09 07:55 AM

I am glad you're ok and hope for a quick recovery for you and your bike.

That said, this is why I love the feel of steel. I've said it once and wil keep saying it. What would you rather sit your ass or ride on? A material that has been around for 2,000+ years or a material that, in this case, has been around for barely 25 years? Had this been a chro-moly fork this likely would not have happened.

Metzinger 10-28-09 08:09 AM

^I broke a chromoly fork rolling off a curb at speed. The legs both failed under the crown and it folded forward on thin tabs of metal until the tire rubbed against the pivot bolt of the brake. I quickly ground to a halt. I stepped off the bike and pushed the wheel back down for fun. That's when the whole business broke off and fell on the grass. Bad, yet not sinister.:)

I do still swear by steel, mind you. But I tell people to be careful around Mexican Benottos.

fuzz2050 10-28-09 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by d2create (Post 9937917)
Glad your ok!

Sorry you had to bear the burden of another catastrophic carbon failure.
Steel might bend or even crack, but it doesn't fail like that.

yep, a steel fork would have bent backwards until the wheel hit the downtube, then buckled. It happened to my GF's long haul trucker. Even those bikes aren't invincible.

CliftonGK1 10-28-09 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by CB HI (Post 9937357)
So you were "just riding along", the wind picks up your front wheel and then slams it down folding your fork.:innocent:




Now what part of the bike, did the curb hit?:p

+1

The winds were in excess of 70mph at the FC508 this year and I haven't heard reports of anyone lifted off the ground like a cow in a tornado.

drjava 10-28-09 11:51 AM

Its been hella windy around here for the past few days for sure. I had an awesome tail wind this morning, but nothing airborne.

Mr_quadzilla 10-28-09 12:03 PM

If I hadn't been involved... I'd probably call bull**** too. However, after looking at that other c-dale fork failure that looks exactly like mine I'm wondering if I have the order of events right. I can't rule out the damn thing just failed and in the process I experienced what seemed like being lifted up.I still think the wind took me, but it happened too fast. On a side note a woman driving saw me crash and saw the same thing I experienced, me being lifted up and smacked down.

tagaproject6 10-28-09 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by grimace308 (Post 9938973)
im sorry man, but it looks like youre not too bad off, as far as the body goes...the wallet being another story all together.

235lb guy is right. over on the clydesdale forum, we dont hear of this happening too often and by often i mean never, if you get my drift.

I see what you did there :thumb:

d2create 10-28-09 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by fuzz2050 (Post 9940251)
yep, a steel fork would have bent backwards until the wheel hit the downtube, then buckled. It happened to my GF's long haul trucker. Even those bikes aren't invincible.

Anything can fail. But you'll find many more examples of what happened to the OP.

CliftonGK1 10-28-09 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_quadzilla (Post 9941545)
If I hadn't been involved... I'd probably call bull**** too. However, after looking at that other c-dale fork failure that looks exactly like mine I'm wondering if I have the order of events right. I can't rule out the damn thing just failed and in the process I experienced what seemed like being lifted up. I still think the wind took me, but it happened too fast. On a side note a woman driving saw me crash and saw the same thing I experienced, me being lifted up and smacked down.

Since the snap is clean, I'm guessing this was a straight forward breakage with the trailing edge severing last. The straightening of the blades as they snapped could have felt like a slight vaulting motion, but I doubt it was the wind picking you up.
Glad you're OK. I've only seen one other CF fork failure similar to this in person (and it wasn't on a C'dale). Blades were snapped clean right around the midpoint of their length, and the rider wasn't a very big guy.

Quel 10-28-09 12:57 PM

I think this means you need to start hitting the Twinkees and bulk up a bit. Some extra weight should keep you on the ground.

Mr_quadzilla 10-28-09 12:59 PM

My personal experience of it was riding along all la-de-dah. Then feeling weightless for a moment which was startling and then chest in the ground and sliding and worrying about my arms and legs. Then i remember a moment of crawling to the sideawalk using the curb to get up and standing in the middle of the road over my bike startled for a while. The first moment when things weren't right really seemed like I was lifted up.

yrrej 10-28-09 01:26 PM

Any chance you could have hit a pothole and became too befuddled by the wreck to
see the pothole after the fact?

Jerry

HalfAussie 10-28-09 01:27 PM

Awful wind in Tucson, AZ on the same day, about 30mph gusts. The worst was the debris that found it's way into my eyes even though I was wearing sunglasses. All in all, I still enjoyed the bike ride home.

Mr_quadzilla 10-28-09 01:30 PM

Not a chance, I know that road, and it's very good. Also right in front of an elementary school, across the street and a quarter mile from a high school in a residential area, a rich one. Good roads, flat ground, straight and wide.

thenomad 10-28-09 05:36 PM

Nice and windy here in the IE too.
Uphill against the wind on the way in today. I also made a wrong turn for a "shortcut" so I had to ride another mile or so out of my way in the wind. Rear tire was soft too so rolling resistance was high. All in all, better workout today.

And to the OP - Great use for a Cal jersey.

CB HI 10-28-09 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by thenomad (Post 9943776)
And to the OP - Great use for a Cal jersey.

Ouch, you are so cruel.

looie 10-28-09 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_quadzilla (Post 9937729)
I <3 Garmin. If not for it, my chest would look like this too.
http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/P1000727.jpg

From another Cal alum who's spent some time in Silicon Valley, what the heck did you expect wearing that jersey down there? Go Bears!

ryandood 10-28-09 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mr_quadzilla (Post 9938592)
Thanks, I'll pass on the sorrow to the next of kin.
You didn't break it right? You just bruised it? It's a lot harder to heal a broken ego. Were you trail riding? Where were you when the Santa Ana's hit you?

I was at my school, CSUF (Cal State Uni. Fullerton). I was just riding back to my apartment from the library late at night but luckily I fell in front of the one guy I saw on my ride home, hahah. Oh well, I had a good laugh.

JoeyBike 10-28-09 08:58 PM

You kept your face and hands apparently. A few scrapes and some shoulder rehab (maybe). Not too shabby for a broken fork. A miracle you hit your chest like that and not your chin.

Glad you are (relatively) OK. You should alert the fork mfg in case they have a defect in that fork model. Could save someone else from crashing with a fork recall (it happens).

Hope you are riding soon.

Mr_quadzilla 10-28-09 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by looie (Post 9944215)
From another Cal alum who's spent some time in Silicon Valley, what the heck did you expect wearing that jersey down there? Go Bears!

I expected to be treated with the dignity and respect that a real student, one that didn't go to a farm fer all that book larnin' deserves ;). I do really enjoy rolling by Furd every day, I don't often wear Cal, though sometimes I do. I'll share some of my favorite experiences:
1) In 2006 when I first moved to Redwood City and was riding home from work on Middlefield coming from Mountain View (MIPS). I was waiting at a light in Palo Alto, and a UPS driver rolls up next to me and says to me, "Don't you think you should be a little frightened? Don't you know this is Cardinal Country."
To which I respond, "The way I hear it, the only thing to be scared of up here are Bears"Then he gets a quick laugh and the light turns and we drag race out of the intersection. I beat him across the road. but he can go faster than me (I was on a MTB w/ slicks). So we were going 45 and 35 respectively where the Speed limit is either 25 or 30.

2) When I am riding home I usually keep it at a mellow pace but occasionally throw down a TT effort and try to break an hour coming home. Never with aero bars though, that's cheating (commuting). When I am screaming home. Half my ride is to get to foothill the other half is foothill to Alameda to Roosevelt. When I am TT'ing like that sometimes I can get to my magic place where my cadence and HR stabilize and I feel like I can hold it forever (115/190 respectively) Usually holding 27mph or so.
I also drink a bunch of espresso and listen to Happy Hardcore for the extra oomph I need.
One glorious day the Stanford B's (I'm asuuming) were out there practicing and I destroyed them. They were in full TTT form and working hard, (On foothill between Artastadero and Page Mill) I rolled by them at least 3-4 mph faster and dropped em quickly enough they couldn't catch me, though not for lack of trying. The womens A's were out there too, though not as fast as the Mens B's.

3) This one is the most frequent nad most fun. As I mentioned before I often will drink espresso before I go home. Sometimes it's too much on top of the day's gatorade and I have to pee. The only place that is on my route and doesn't require a detour is on Junipero Sierra between Alpine and Campus on the gold course where there is that little bike path thingy so you aren't on the road. I stop and piss on a tree. You know, since the Furd mascot is a tree and bears piss on them. Good times.

4) Occasionally Cardinals will roll down their windows and yell at me or honk at me.

Mr_quadzilla 10-28-09 09:39 PM

If you noticed this thread; http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=597689 this has happened to someone else a day or two before me. Also bought his Cannondale in May like me and the bike also has the same number of miles on it.... suspicious don't ya think.

a1penguin 10-29-09 01:48 AM

Glad to hear you are OK, hope you can get the frame replaced without a lot of hassle and forking over a ton of money. The wind was terrible. I never worked so hard to go so slow. Going over the train tracks was somewhat terrifying. The wind was strong, the bike lane narrow and there was traffic. I was afraid I was going to get blown into the car lane. The ride home at night was fine except for the tree that was down on the pitch black Stevens Creek Trail. Good lights are a must.


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