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Old 11-02-09, 08:28 AM
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Right Hooked in Front of Police

Who sat there and did nothing. I was expecting him to be my hero.

Biking along, doing fine enjoying the nice sunrise and brisk weather. I approach an intersection and a car behind me passes and turns right in front of me. The police is waiting his turn, also turning into the same road, and is coming from the other direction and turning left. Given his lack of response, I figured he'd turn into me too, but he waited. He's so nice.

I guess I got to assume he was munching on his donut and didn't see it. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
Who sat there and did nothing. I was expecting him to be my hero.

Biking along, doing fine enjoying the nice sunrise and brisk weather. I approach an intersection and a car behind me passes and turns right in front of me. The police is waiting his turn, also turning into the same road, and is coming from the other direction and turning left. Given his lack of response, I figured he'd turn into me too, but he waited. He's so nice.

I guess I got to assume he was munching on his donut and didn't see it. Oh well.
Was it a ranger, or a Cleveland cop? If it was a cop, he didn't turn into you cuz he was dipping his donut into his coffee.

Cedar Point Rd & the parkway by any chance? I always hated that intersection.
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Old 11-02-09, 08:56 AM
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Did you get hit? If not, is it really a right hook?
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A few weeks ago, I was riding on a MUP when I approached an interesection. I had a green light, but I slowed down anyway. A police car was waiting at the light, right in front of me. When I started to cross, an oncoming car took a left and would have crushed me, had I not done an emergency stop.

I look up, and the police officer is laughing. The light changes, and he drives away.
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Originally Posted by chipcom View Post
Was it a ranger, or a Cleveland cop? If it was a cop, he didn't turn into you cuz he was dipping his donut into his coffee.

Cedar Point Rd & the parkway by any chance? I always hated that intersection.
Yes, it was a Metropark Ranger in the Fairview Park area, a couple miles north of Cedar Point Rd, which is a bit dicey. I really thought he'd do something, as in my experience the Rangers are typically zealous in their duties.

Where's my hero when I need one? I've gotten right hooked lots of times, but never in front of a cop! Justice is supposed to roll down from the frickin' mountain top, isn't it?

Lambo--I count a right hook as a guy who quickly passes and turns right in front of you as you are proceeding straight through the intersection. He should have waited his turn. I don't know about the getting hit part of it.
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Maybe the police officer didn't see you get hit (after all you are far right and blocked by the the vehicle that turned in front of you.. Did anyone else stop?
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Maybe the police officer didn't see you get hit (after all you are far right and blocked by the the vehicle that turned in front of you.. Did anyone else stop?
I did not get hit. I'm fine.

Maybe I'm using the term "right hook" incorrectly. But the guy turned right in front of me and I had to hit the brakes to avoid collision. Sure seemed like a traffic offense to me.
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
Where's my hero when I need one? I've gotten right hooked lots of times, but never in front of a cop! Justice is supposed to roll down from the frickin' mountain top, isn't it?
In Cuyahoga county if you want justice, you gotta pay for it up front.
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Old 11-02-09, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
I did not get hit. I'm fine.

Maybe I'm using the term "right hook" incorrectly. But the guy turned right in front of me and I had to hit the brakes to avoid collision. Sure seemed like a traffic offense to me.
I operate under the no-blood, no-foul rule. Yes, the guy probably committed a traffic offense, but it's not like we can expect the police to do anything about that!
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Old 11-02-09, 11:44 AM
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If there isn't actually an impact, it's a tossup whether a cop will intervene (even a real cop). This is true whether it's car-cyclist, car-pedestrian or car-car.
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Old 11-02-09, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lambo_vt View Post
I operate under the no-blood, no-foul rule. Yes, the guy probably committed a traffic offense, but it's not like we can expect the police to do anything about that!
Huh?

I got a ticket a couple months ago for speeding near a cop--he pulled me over pdq--no problem. They are always looking to ticket people, and rightly so in many cases. Plus, this is a Metropark Ranger--they keep busy cleaning up after dead dear and fallen branches. Ticketing a cager for a hook is a perfect task for them--that's what I'd be on the lookout for if I was them!
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
Huh?

I got a ticket a couple months ago for speeding near a cop--he pulled me over pdq--no problem. They are always looking to ticket people, and rightly so in many cases. Plus, this is a Metropark Ranger--they keep busy cleaning up after dead dear and fallen branches. Ticketing a cager for a hook is a perfect task for them--that's what I'd be on the lookout for if I was them!
I'm guessing he didn't see it, or if he did, deemed it not flagrant/dangerous enough to warrant pulling the driver over, which is too bad.

After spending yesterday watching and playing sports, it's clear to me that determining when an infraction has taken place and whether to penalize someone for it is not an exact science.
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Originally Posted by thdave View Post
Maybe I'm using the term "right hook" incorrectly. But the guy turned right in front of me and I had to hit the brakes to avoid collision. Sure seemed like a traffic offense to me.
I often take the whole right lane near busy intersections to avoid these situations. Works well, and I've had no trouble with these right hooks I keep hearing about. In order to successfuly right hook me, they'd have to do something extra-stupid (turn right from the left lane), which only a small minority will actually do.
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Originally Posted by neil View Post
I often take the whole right lane near busy intersections to avoid these situations. Works well, and I've had no trouble with these right hooks I keep hearing about. In order to successfuly right hook me, they'd have to do something extra-stupid (turn right from the left lane), which only a small minority will actually do.
Never thought of that, because most people behind me will be going straight. You're suggesting go toward the center of the lane and slow them down a bit to avoid getting hit for that little bit of vulnerable time. I might try that.
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Never thought of that, because most people behind me will be going straight. You're suggesting go toward the center of the lane and slow them down a bit to avoid getting hit for that little bit of vulnerable time. I might try that.
My attitude is that I'm willing to slow down the careful drivers and the dangerous ones, if that's what it takes to make me safe. Even though in many cases, I wouldn't have to slow anyone down if people would just drive like the careful folks (who pass cyclists at 3+ feet of distance for safety reasons)
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Originally Posted by lambo_vt View Post
I operate under the no-blood, no-foul rule. Yes, the guy probably committed a traffic offense, but it's not like we can expect the police to do anything about that!
So it would be cool with you, if I come over and shoot up your house, as long as I do not draw blood. Please PM the address, so the fun can begin.
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So it would be cool with you, if I come over and shoot up your house, as long as I do not draw blood. Please PM the address, so the fun can begin.
Yeah dude those are obviously the same, and I was also not being sarcastic at all. Please PM me your address so I can send you the BikeForums Most Ridiculous Post of 2009 award. Yeah, there's time left in the year, but you really wowed the committee.

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lambo vt is right. You don't have a case. Stop whinning and get on with your life. Jeeez! "A car scared me today and the cop did nothing." Do you ever reread your posts before submitting them? Not so much for spelling and such, but for how they might reflect on you the poster? Toughen up.
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Yeah dude those are obviously the same, and I was also not being sarcastic at all. Please PM me your address so I can send you the BikeForums Most Ridiculous Post of 2009 award. Yeah, there's time left in the year, but you really wowed the committee.

lambo is my new hero. Finally a guy who gets it.
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Policemen in their cars are not always on traffic patrol, or even on duty, so don't assume they're going to jump on every infraction they see, even if they are properly doing their job.
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Glad to hear all is well!

Hey, a boxer can throw a right hook and still not connect. In fact, some of them go down when they get hit by a phantom punch...
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I've said this before; I'm no fan of the police. Too many bullies for my liking, but that said, I've never been abused by one and I know many of them here in KW who are good guys. My point is those guys handle half-witted dingleberrys all day long. Every person they deal with during their shift is having his worse day on earth. They don't deliver many kittens. They take a lot of crap. They actually have serious stuff to do. Watching out for momma's boys on bikes taking grievous offense at intersection is very low on the radar. OK, it's off the radar. Grow a pair and stop making a fool of yourself.
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Glad to hear all is well!

Hey, a boxer can throw a right hook and still not connect. In fact, some of them go down when they get hit by a phantom punch...
Hey, Sonny Liston got tagged up there in Lewiston.
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Watching out for momma's boys on bikes taking grievous offense at intersection is very low on the radar. OK, it's off the radar. Grow a pair and stop making a fool of yourself.
You are certainly sound like a huge, face attached to the cop's butt, fan of the police. You gladly cheerlead with pom-poms all a flutter for these ego-maniacs with authority who enforce when it suits them. How about spitting the pair out before you post?
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Originally Posted by bugly64 View Post
You are certainly sound like a huge, face attached to the cop's butt, fan of the police. You gladly cheerlead with pom-poms all a flutter for these ego-maniacs with authority who enforce when it suits them. How about spitting the pair out before you post?
OK. You got pretty excited when you tapped that one out. Take a deep breath and try it again. I can't spell worth a damn and my syntax and sentence structure could use some work, but Jesus God, I can't make much sense of your stuff at all. I'll be here off and on all night. There's a fireworks display coming up in about an hour over the boat basin and I'm sitting on my sailboat working on a good buzz. So hurry up while I'm still kinda coherent. Another hour or two and I'll start to sound like you. Can't have two of us online.
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