Originally Posted by AdamDZ (Post 10116506)

Anyway, I said: if it's not too cold for skiing it's not too cold for biking :D

Yes, it's fun. Not everyone can do this or understand but I live near public transportation and I only opt for the subway if it's very cold AND pouring hard at the same time.

Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 10116825)

A few oddities in this post. First, how can it be very cold AND pouring rain? "Very cold", IMO, doesn't start until you get into the single digits F. I've never seen it rain when it was very cold.

I actually have ridden a bike down to -25*F, and when I was cross country skiing, it really wasn't worth going out if it was less than about -10*F. Even then, you had to kick waxes that were kind of hard to get sometimes.

Originally Posted by Kojak (Post 10117116)

Your definition of "very cold" may very well be true, but I've never been more miserable on a bike than when I've gone on a long ride at about 35F in the pouring rain. It's like sloshing around in a bucket of ice water.

Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 10117404)

Yes, nearly freezing and raining is about as miserable as it gets. I'd rather ride at -10*F than at 33 and raining. But 33 doesn't count as very cold.

Originally Posted by bugly64 (Post 10118424)

Today it was -19F.

Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 10115918)

BTW, neoprene face masks are easily found on eBay or at motorcycle shops. The problem is that since most are made for motorcycles, they have these wimpy little sets of holes to breathe through; you'll suffocate if you have to do any actual work wearing one. I just took a pair of scissors to mine.

Here's the scary man after a ride last winter. The center of the mouth hole is not cut out because there's a seam there and I was afraid it'd unravel if I cut it. I may just try gluing it and trying to cut it anyway, even like that it's not quite enough room to breathe.

Oh, the blue thing is an additional layer, just basically a stretch poly tube. I wear it by itself from about 40 down to 25 or so. I think it was about -20*F that day.

http://www.hauntedfrog.com/gallery2/d/7829-1/mask.jpg

Originally Posted by cyclezealot (Post 10116537)

Its just me.. No wonder in LA they pick up cyclists as potential bank robbers.

Originally Posted by danarnold (Post 10118923)

You guys are crazy. I thought I'd do a quick errand today, just a couple miles. Sunny and 22. No big deal. Stocking cap and a polarfleece vest over my Wabi thick wool jersey. I hadn't gone a mile, downhill and maybe 25 mph when my face and finger tips froze. Even uphill on the way back my fingertips... I thought they'd be black when I got home.

I've got a balaclava around somewhere, but I've definitely got to find warmer gloves. I wonder if they make gloves that just have extra insulation in the tips. Most winter gloves are too thick and warm for the rest of the hand.

Originally Posted by danarnold (Post 10118923)

You guys are crazy. I thought I'd do a quick errand today, just a couple miles. Sunny and 22. No big deal. Stocking cap and a polarfleece vest over my Wabi thick wool jersey. I hadn't gone a mile, downhill and maybe 25 mph when my face and finger tips froze. Even uphill on the way back my fingertips... I thought they'd be black when I got home.

I've got a balaclava around somewhere, but I've definitely got to find warmer gloves. I wonder if they make gloves that just have extra insulation in the tips. Most winter gloves are too thick and warm for the rest of the hand.

Originally Posted by crazyed27 (Post 10120062)

Dan....Layer the clothes!...and you are in WA...So the shell layer should be water proof because of the rain there.. IMO it cant be worse than St Louis! Here is a pic of this weekend at 30! Cold yes Bikeable for sure!