It has been my experience, both last winter and so far this winter, that the traffic tends to give me more room in inclement weather. They are usually going a little slower too.

I actually think that some of the folks in cars are kind of getting used to me now. I see a lot of the same cars on a daily basis.

do you have studs?

I have studs.

then time on the MUP is safer

Don't have a MUP.

guess that was meant for clifton

The old rail bed might be considered a MUP. But in the winter, it isn't plowed. I would rather take my chances with the traffic than with the crazy snowmobilers.

Sorry, I will go away now

I came across some crazy snomobilers in my 4x4 once. they were wearing long guns with shoulder straps across their chest. I couldn't wait to get out of there. too back I was stuck and blocking them. they were pissed and didn't help while I extracted myself.

We very rarely have just ice on the roads. The only time we get that is when the air temp is fairly warm but the roads are cold. Typically road salt is pretty effective in those situations.

More often an intersection will get icy or it might suddenly turn cold after being warm enough to have standing water.

Plain old ice is very passable on studded tires but I doubt I would venture out into a high traffic area.

Exact situation we had. 31F overnight temperatures after a long stretch of highs in the upper 20s. Then a morning ambient of 35F with rain that froze up into a solid sheet on the pavement. They had prepped all the hills and highways, but didn't do much of anything to this relatively flat stretch of road.

Right, because people with firearms are always about to snap at any minute and start shooting everyone in sight.

o/t i know but... d&d reference? NICE