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tarwheel 02-09-10 07:50 AM

Coldest temperatures without face covering?
 
I lost my beloved balaclava yesterday after stupidly leaving my seatbag open on the ride home from work. Usually I wear it when temperatures are below 40 F, so I've got some cold rides ahead with the winter we are having. Temperatures are supposed to be in the low to mid-20s F for the rest of this week, which is colder than I have ridden without any face protection. Do I need to worry about frostbite at those temperatures? What's the coldest temperatures you have ridden in without a face covering? I'm trying to decide whether to shell out $25-30 for a new balaclava or just tough it out.

CommuterRun 02-09-10 07:56 AM

In the low 30's F I like to wear something on my ears. I don't reach for the balaclava until temps get down around 20 or lower.

f1xedgear 02-09-10 08:16 AM

I'll ride w/o a balaclava in temps down to low 20s(F). I've found that rubbing in a layer of vaseline on eyelids, cheeks, and nose does help (also feet, but that's another post). Nobody notices the shiny gleen, 'cause if they're bothering to look that closely they're probably seeing the frozen snot and spit in my beard instead. Yeah, facial hair (what little I am able to grow) helps, too.

interested 02-09-10 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by tarwheel (Post 10380424)
I lost my beloved balaclava yesterday after stupidly leaving my seatbag open on the ride home from work. Usually I wear it when temperatures are below 40 F, so I've got some cold rides ahead with the winter we are having. Temperatures are supposed to be in the low to mid-20s F for the rest of this week, which is colder than I have ridden without any face protection. Do I need to worry about frostbite at those temperatures? What's the coldest temperatures you have ridden in without a face covering? I'm trying to decided whether to shell out $25-30 for a new balaclava or just tough it out.

I would certainly buy a new balaclava, or rather two; I like to have spares of everything bicycle related to avoid downtime, and balaclavas, gloves etc. just get lost sometimes. A nice trick is to apply some kind cream to your face, it really helps to take the sting out of the cold wind and snow/sleet/rain.

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Regards

SlimAgainSoon 02-09-10 08:22 AM

Anything in the low 40s and below ... it is balaclava time!

But I don't live in Frozenville like some of the hard cases, so I'm a wimp when it comes to the big chill.

I like to be comfortable on my bike.

JPprivate 02-09-10 08:22 AM

I'd like to have a balaclava once it gets under 30 F.

Arcanum 02-09-10 08:24 AM

I start wearing a very thin balaclava (just stretchy woven polyester, really) around 30F, and it has worked fine down to around 10-12F.

At 20F, I might start being concerned with frostbite if I were going very far without ear covering. It depends on how long you're going to be out and how fast the effective wind speed while riding is.

tarwheel 02-09-10 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Arcanum (Post 10380509)
At 20F, I might start being concerned with frostbite if I were going very far without ear covering. It depends on how long you're going to be out and how fast the effective wind speed while riding is.

My morning commute is about 10 miles and generally takes about 45 minutes. My route is hilly, so I reach speeds over 30 mph on several hills. I do have plenty of cycling caps that cover the top of my head and ears, so that is not the issue, but my face. I leave home at 6:30 am, so I am generally riding in the very coldest temperatures of the day.

rumrunn6 02-09-10 08:34 AM

get another

in the teens this morning so I wore my 3 hole ski mask/balaclava
in the 30s this afternoon so I'll wear a short wool hat that just covers my ears

PaulH 02-09-10 08:43 AM

I've found that face covering is only needed below 0 F. Growing up in New England, nobody had heard of a balaclava, and we all did fine.

Paul

Arcanum 02-09-10 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by tarwheel (Post 10380537)
My morning commute is about 10 miles and generally takes about 45 minutes. My route is hilly, so I reach speeds over 30 mph on several hills. I do have plenty of cycling caps that cover the top of my head and ears, so that is not the issue, but my face. I leave home at 6:30 am, so I am generally riding in the very coldest temperatures of the day.

I suspect you'll be ok in terms of injury/frostbite, but you'll probably be a lot more comfortable if you get another balaclava. Not to mention looking less windburned when you get to work.

AdamDZ 02-09-10 09:15 AM

Thin balaclava and regular glasses under 35F, mouth and nose uncovered. Thicker balaclava and goggles (my eyes dry out and hurt later) below 20F, mouth and nose covered. I also use oily cream if it's below freezing point.

Adam

Stryver 02-09-10 09:23 AM

I have happily ridden in the upper 20's with no face covering. I do have a cap under the helmet, and ear warmers.

I have never pondered facial frostbite on a bike, but I have nipped a piece of cheek once skiing. It was in the single digits F, maybe in the teens.

electrik 02-09-10 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by tarwheel (Post 10380424)
I lost my beloved balaclava yesterday after stupidly leaving my seatbag open on the ride home from work. Usually I wear it when temperatures are below 40 F, so I've got some cold rides ahead with the winter we are having. Temperatures are supposed to be in the low to mid-20s F for the rest of this week, which is colder than I have ridden without any face protection. Do I need to worry about frostbite at those temperatures? What's the coldest temperatures you have ridden in without a face covering? I'm trying to decided whether to shell out $25-30 for a new balaclava or just tough it out.

Get another one.

Even at 60F you can get chilblains after repeated exposure. Don't use vaseline to stay warm either, it's just placebo. Might help with moisture

10. Chilblains

Caused by repeated exposure of bare skin to temperatures below 60 degrees
Redness and itching of the effected area
Particularly found on cheeks and ears, fingers and toes
Women and young children are the most susceptible
The cold exposure causes damage to the peripheral capillary beds, this damage is permanent and the redness and itching will return with exposure
Most people don't know they have it.

Barrettscv 02-09-10 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 10380545)
get another

in the teens this morning so I wore my 3 hole ski mask/balaclava
in the 30s this afternoon so I'll wear a short wool hat that just covers my ears

^^ What he said.

Michael

tarwheel 02-09-10 12:06 PM

A happy ending to my dilemma. I went by the local bike shop during lunch and they had all their winter gear on sale for 20% off, plus they had one Craft balaclava left. So I bought it. Then on my drive back to the office I cut through a neighborhood on my bike commute route, and there was my old balaclava laying on the sidewalk. I rode right by it this morning and didn't see it, but the light was dim. So now I have two balaclavas.

rumrunn6 02-09-10 12:24 PM

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I almost suggested you go back to look for it - it didn't sound like something someone would take.

one day, in my car, I noticed a lunch bag in the road. it was sure to get flattened. it was at a junction of 1 roads and it must have slid off the roof of the person's car. I thought about stopping but didn't but I kept thinking about it getting squished like my cell phone a couple months back and eventually I went back and put it on top of a snow drift. I would have called but there was no ID in it just food. later that day I drove back and noticed it was gone - so hopefully someone in that family got it.

chilblain? oh my gosh!

jeffpoulin 02-09-10 12:24 PM

I wear a hat under my helmet down to about 25F, and a different hat with a face mask thingy that I use to cover my neck down to about 15F. Never wore a full face balaclava, but I'm pretty sure you're not at risk for frostbite unless it's significantly colder.

vtjim 02-09-10 12:25 PM

I usually put on a balaclava when it drops below the teens, F. Guess I'm hot blooded. I overheat with a full head covering unless it's cold. It's the wind chill that I'm most concerned with, not warmth.

I have a band for my ears that I wear when it's below freezing.

kgriffioen 02-09-10 12:29 PM

My balaclava does not cover my face, only my neck and ears. I wear it when it goes below 40 and below 30 I'll wear a toque as well. My face is never covered and it really doesn't bother me but then again, I won't ride in temps below 10F.

nick burns 02-09-10 12:34 PM

Skull cap at 35F to 25F. Below 25F is when the balaclava is necessary (for me).

atcfoody 02-09-10 12:49 PM

I pull a skull cap on when the temps drop to the low 40's, and the balaclava goes on at about 35 or less. That being said, I have yet to pull on a face mask, but when I was riding at 14F, I wish I had one.

D

rumrunn6 02-09-10 12:54 PM

I like to be kind to my sinuses and so I cover the bridge of my nose and cheeks. I've had a bloody nose while riding and it is no fun. I attribute that to a mega does by mistake of B12. 2500 mcg before hill climbing in subfreezing temps is not wise. not with my nose anyway

tjspiel 02-09-10 01:28 PM

Pick up a scarf at a thrift store and look for sales on balaclavas.

I've probably ridden without anything on my face down into the teens but I doubt I was very comfortable.

RedWhiteandRed 02-09-10 01:58 PM

You do not have to worry about frostbite.


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