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I like it.
I've got a flat bar road bike, which I prefered over drops, and there are times when I want to push it and other times I want to relax and enjoy the scenery. I think your stem could help me do that and, as such, has a lot of promise. I hope to see it in stores or on sale one day--good luck! |
I think it's a promising product. Couple of things on "popularity". Nobody likes to add weights. How much extra weight does the bar imposes? What are your target demographic (obviously not low end bicycle market). Once you narrow down the size of market, it does get smaller rather rapidly at which point you need to find out how much you can produce in a batch in reasonable manner. I am guessing that $275 or something probably was doing basically one off on very small run production vs say 1000 in a batch probably can get it down to $25-$50 range depending on where you make it manufactured.
Here is a thought. I see good potential in high -mid end MTB, Hybrid. I actually see even more potential on a market where being adjustability and being able to do so on fly is godsend. Folding bicycle market. Lot of folding bikes are somewhat limited in bar selection or folded size due to it's need to fold. This could actually assist both in fit/folding side of story. Good luck to you. (I would love to try but my folding bike doesn't have standard stem -_-) Probably can be good money by contacting company like Dahon? |
Yah, I'd definitely try one & give you honest feedback. Lket me know what info, etc you need & I can pm you.
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
(Post 11902054)
How do you activate/unlock it?
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Originally Posted by thdave
(Post 11902901)
I like it.
I've got a flat bar road bike, which I prefered over drops, and there are times when I want to push it and other times I want to relax and enjoy the scenery. I think your stem could help me do that and, as such, has a lot of promise. I hope to see it in stores or on sale one day--good luck! |
Originally Posted by bored117
(Post 11903352)
I think it's a promising product. Couple of things on "popularity". Nobody likes to add weights. How much extra weight does the bar imposes? What are your target demographic (obviously not low end bicycle market). Once you narrow down the size of market, it does get smaller rather rapidly at which point you need to find out how much you can produce in a batch in reasonable manner. I am guessing that $275 or something probably was doing basically one off on very small run production vs say 1000 in a batch probably can get it down to $25-$50 range depending on where you make it manufactured.
Here is a thought. I see good potential in high -mid end MTB, Hybrid. I actually see even more potential on a market where being adjustability and being able to do so on fly is godsend. Folding bicycle market. Lot of folding bikes are somewhat limited in bar selection or folded size due to it's need to fold. This could actually assist both in fit/folding side of story. Good luck to you. (I would love to try but my folding bike doesn't have standard stem -_-) Probably can be good money by contacting company like Dahon? |
Originally Posted by bikeguy55
(Post 11904379)
Thanks, That's exactly what I designed it for.
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
(Post 10501568)
The reasons you listed are precisely the reason for using ergonomic drop handlebars. Multiple hand positions (tops, hoods, hooks, drops) give different rider positions to change aerodynamics and allow for variable body position to promote circulation and alleviate numbness.
To bikeguy55: How secure is the stem? You know what an articulated stem is, right? I have one on my road bike, and it creaks a little bit when I climb very steep ( around 20 % gradient ) hills out of the saddle. It's safe, in that it's not going to let go on me, but it's also very unnerving. Does yours do the same thing? |
Get booth space at the Taipei Bike Trade show, Taiwan.
then bring your prototypes and prospectus there. that is where the bicycle industry investment and manufacturing is, that's why so much of it , bike stuff, comes from there. |
Hey I would really love to try this out and I live in Lincoln so you wouldn't even have to ship it to me. =) I am not too concerned about adding weight if it works well and not too expensive. Being able to adjust the bars while riding would be really handy.
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I see one length, quite long..
part of sizing a bike to the rider is having a variety of extension lengths Softride suspension stems were 130 to 150 mm long , required the length to make the mech work. But the customer was limited to a certain size. big people or with with long torsos If there is someone needing a shorter stem they are out of luck, like the 51% of the population Women. |
I'd be willing to install one on my commuter bike.
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Originally Posted by thdave
(Post 11902901)
I like it.
I've got a flat bar road bike, which I prefered over drops, and there are times when I want to push it and other times I want to relax and enjoy the scenery. I think your stem could help me do that and, as such, has a lot of promise. I hope to see it in stores or on sale one day--good luck! |
Looks like an interesting idea. Any idea how it would work with trekking/ butterfly bars. I have those and use am old school adjustable stem, but would be very interested in trying one out some day.
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Originally Posted by elcraft
(Post 11902149)
Must the device be used only with a threadless headset or can it be adapted for 1" THREADED STEERERS?
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Originally Posted by thestoutdog
(Post 11906751)
Looks like an interesting idea. Any idea how it would work with trekking/ butterfly bars. I have those and use am old school adjustable stem, but would be very interested in trying one out some day.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 11904718)
I see one length, quite long..
part of sizing a bike to the rider is having a variety of extension lengths Softride suspension stems were 130 to 150 mm long , required the length to make the mech work. But the customer was limited to a certain size. big people or with with long torsos If there is someone needing a shorter stem they are out of luck, like the 51% of the population Women. |
Originally Posted by monsterpile
(Post 11904646)
Hey I would really love to try this out and I live in Lincoln so you wouldn't even have to ship it to me. =) I am not too concerned about adding weight if it works well and not too expensive. Being able to adjust the bars while riding would be really handy.
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Originally Posted by jayr
(Post 11906147)
Same here. Seems like a really good idea if it's not overly heavy. I would think it would be great for touring as well.
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Please go to my website for more information about EZRIDE www.JLSDESIGNWORKS.com
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Originally Posted by pathdoc
(Post 11904763)
I'd be willing to install one on my commuter bike.
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Originally Posted by EKW in DC
(Post 10485116)
...or a lock with fingerprint ID. I've only been on these forums for about a year, but I swear I've seen that idea proposed 100 times.
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I am alway skeptical of new products but this looks rather interesting and if it was well made and remained solidly fixed in place after adjustments I can see it having many practical uses.
I am involved in the bicycle business at many levels, I run a small shop, work in a larger one as a builder, fabricator, and mechanic, and am looking to carry new products at a new location with a focus on local and North American made products. And if you want to see this tested at -30C to see how it works... I can do that. If anything, post up some detailed shots so we can get a better look at this. |
Originally Posted by thestoutdog
(Post 11906751)
Looks like an interesting idea. Any idea how it would work with trekking/ butterfly bars. I have those and use am old school adjustable stem, but would be very interested in trying one out some day.
http://www.JLSDESIGNWORKS.com/testimonials.html |
Originally Posted by BarracksSi
(Post 11909035)
Looks like it keeps the bars at the same angle (that is, same angle to the ground; "level" is always "level", etc) wherever you set the height:
http://www.JLSDESIGNWORKS.com/testimonials.html Also, the light stays pointed at the same position through the range of movement. |
Originally Posted by bikeguy55
(Post 11899789)
I have developed a device that allows the rider to adjust the position of the handlebars while on the move. I call it the EZRIDE SYSTEM. Several of my friends like this device but it is difficult to tell if they are just being nice or if there is real appeal for something like this. I did apply for a patent but now am trying to decide if I should offer this for sell. I came here for an unbiased opinion. It can be seen on YOU TUBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7AjJQmQkDE
Please give me your opinion. Is there a market segment that would pay for this device? Unfortunately, I can't offer any business advice as I'm totally green in that area but the touring cyclists could be potential target market. When on the road for hours and days you encounter different road conditions and you energy levels vary greatly. Sometimes you want to go low for a fast descent, or stretch for climbing, or sit up straight during easy parts. Drop bars and touring bars solve that to some degree by offering multiple hand positions, but this invention of yours appears to have far greater range of positions. Oh, and yeah, many people - including myself - don't like drop bars. I don't like brifters nor bar-end shifters as well as the "twisted" palm position on the drops. Something like this used with a flat bar or butterfly touring bars could be beneficial on long rides. Oh, and rather than approaching major corporate manufacturers (they're more likely to turn you down, then develop something like that on their, market it poorly, then kill it and screw you in the process or they may be less open to radical inventions altogether) you might consider a manufacturer who caters to niche markets, cycling aficionados and geeks, touring cyclists. I don't know, something like Paul Components comes to mind. There was another, run by a father and a son that I can't remember, they machine small accessories for bikes. Adam |
Originally Posted by bikeguy55
(Post 11910603)
Yes, That is correct. That way your hands do not ever move from the grips. The shifter and brakes are always in the same position relative to your hands.
Also, the light stays pointed at the same position through the range of movement. |
Originally Posted by AdamDZ
(Post 11910748)
I'll be damned! This could potentially be great for touring cyclists assuming it's reliable enough for long rides in any weather and doesn't compromise the handlebar strength like during steep climbs with heavy loads. When touring I sometimes wished I could adjust the handlebar height easily on the fly.
Unfortunately, I can't offer any business advice as I'm totally green in that area but the touring cyclists could be potential target market. When on the road for hours and days you encounter different road conditions and you energy levels vary greatly. Sometimes you want to go low for a fast descent, or stretch for climbing, or sit up straight during easy parts. Drop bars and touring bars solve that to some degree by offering multiple hand positions, but this invention of yours appears to have far greater range of positions. Oh, and yeah, many people - including myself - don't like drop bars. I don't like brifters nor bar-end shifters as well as the "twisted" palm position on the drops. Something like this used with a flat bar or butterfly touring bars could be beneficial on long rides. Oh, and rather than approaching major corporate manufacturers (they're more likely to turn you down, then develop something like that on their, market it poorly, then kill it and screw you in the process or they may be less open to radical inventions altogether) you might consider a manufacturer who caters to niche markets, cycling aficionados and geeks, touring cyclists. I don't know, something like Paul Components comes to mind. There was another, run by a father and a son that I can't remember, they machine small accessories for bikes. Adam |
One competing design is the Speedlifter http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/speedlifter-t-100
Yours looks better in operation and I presume doesn't require so engineering skills or a specialised tool and the services of a bike mechanic to install? As to looks I'd be changing the design for aesthetics, the gas struts look cool but the centre bracket is too chunky, makes everything look too heavy; a thin framework like a Moulton bike's space age frame or like clip on aero bars would look better. |
Originally Posted by just4tehhalibut
(Post 11912931)
One competing design is the Speedlifter http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/speedlifter-t-100
Yours looks better in operation and I presume doesn't require so engineering skills or a specialised tool and the services of a bike mechanic to install? As to looks I'd be changing the design for aesthetics, the gas struts look cool but the centre bracket is too chunky, makes everything look too heavy; a thin framework like a Moulton bike's space age frame or like clip on aero bars would look better. |
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