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Originally Posted by neil
(Post 10731220)
I often wonder - I see a lot of people comparing clipless to platforms, but I'm wondering what people who've gone from toe-clips to clipless feel about it. I've always used toe-clips, and they seem to offer the same benefits that the proponents of clipless mention. Also, I think that having to bring an extra pair of shoes everywhere I go would be a pain in the ass. So has anyone done that switch and thinks the benefits are worth it?
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I commuted in toe clips for a while, adjusted loose enough to slip my foot in and out. I never developed the courage and skill to tighten them by hand while riding in traffic. I often scuffed the upside-down toe clips on things when I started from a stop. I switched to clipless when I started using them on my new MTB, where I had the concern that an upside-down toe clip could catch a stick or other object.
Clipless pedals felt like I had a lot more control and ability to pedal in circles than the loose toe clips. |
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 10731067)
So, how many people (who stop at red lights, at least when necessary) come to a light and balance, and how many come to a light and unclip a foot to stand on until you have a green?
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What is "about to change?" Most ( but not all ) Seattle lights have the countdown, too. If you come to a light with 5 seconds left, do you balance, or stand? What if it's 15 seconds?
I find I can hold myself steady at a stop for about 10 to 15 seconds, but not longer. When I'm coming up to a light I'll have to stop for, I'll try to slow down to a crawl with a little bit of distance to the line ... assuming it's not crowded on my side of the intersection. This gives me a little more leeway to balance with the help of some very slow movement. Otherwise I'll generally hold it as long as I can, and usually step down about a second before the light turns. If there aren't any good indications, I usually try to balance as long as I can. |
With mountain bike shoes / commuter sandals there is a recessed cleat. This allows you to walk around comfortably in clipless shoes.
I originally bought a toe cage and found that i needed special shoes just to fit properly in the cage and cinching it down was always a pain. I find clipless do offer a slight advantage over the toe clips and they are MUCH easier to use. I just bought these because Keen's sandals have the worst ridge in toe. I love them so far ;) http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...5_10000_200530 |
Originally Posted by neil
(Post 10731220)
I often wonder - I see a lot of people comparing clipless to platforms, but I'm wondering what people who've gone from toe-clips to clipless feel about it. I've always used toe-clips, and they seem to offer the same benefits that the proponents of clipless mention. Also, I think that having to bring an extra pair of shoes everywhere I go would be a pain in the ass. So has anyone done that switch and thinks the benefits are worth it?
I have no problems unclipping to put a foot down and clipping back in when comming to a stop. It's second nature. |
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 10731067)
So, how many people (who stop at red lights, at least when necessary) come to a light and balance, and how many come to a light and unclip a foot to stand on until you have a green?
Originally Posted by neil
(Post 10731220)
I often wonder - I see a lot of people comparing clipless to platforms, but I'm wondering what people who've gone from toe-clips to clipless feel about it. I've always used toe-clips, and they seem to offer the same benefits that the proponents of clipless mention. Also, I think that having to bring an extra pair of shoes everywhere I go would be a pain in the ass. So has anyone done that switch and thinks the benefits are worth it?
I do have clips and straps on my '77 Le Tour as it just feels right on that bike and I don't do much distance or frequency on it. I have a set of pedals with clips and straps that I sometimes use on my MTB when I know I'll just be bopping around a campground and want to ride wearing hiking boots. |
On the other hand many other people have said they liked them, but that was my experience. I haven't used them myself, but I always thought these looked like a better compromise - http://media.rei.com/media/m/1057340.jpg Really I'm not being a jerk for mentioning after the OP bought them, lol, REI has a great return policy and he could still go back and exchange them! :-) |
Originally Posted by neil
(Post 10731220)
I often wonder - I see a lot of people comparing clipless to platforms, but I'm wondering what people who've gone from toe-clips to clipless feel about it. I've always used toe-clips, and they seem to offer the same benefits that the proponents of clipless mention. Also, I think that having to bring an extra pair of shoes everywhere I go would be a pain in the ass. So has anyone done that switch and thinks the benefits are worth it?
So I don't think that's quite as possible with clips, because you can't pull backwards. To be fair, it may not be an issue if you were like me last year where I didn't have a smooth pedals stroke anyways. :-) I wish I could offer advice about switching from toe clips to "clipless", but I tried toe clips a couple of times and they scared me so I'm probably not the best person to ask. I didn't like that you had to remember to slide your foot backwards first. To be fair, clipless also scared me at first but I figured I'd get used to clipping in and out of them without thinking about it eventually, and that's what happened. Changing shoes is certainly the drawback. With mountain shoes and cleats you certainly don't have to change shoes "everywhere" - I'd go grocery shopping in my bike shoes, at friends houses they always ask that you take off your shoes anyways, and at work I have a desk so I can keep a pair of regular shoes here. But any time you're going to spend any large amount of time off the bike standing up or walking it's annoying, they're certainly not as comfortable for regular walking as normal shoes. |
I put these on my hybrid after it became (n-1), I like them a lot with the dual side clips and the platforms are just fine for regular shoes. |
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
(Post 10731067)
So, how many people (who stop at red lights, at least when necessary) come to a light and balance, and how many come to a light and unclip a foot to stand on until you have a green?
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http://www.bhop73.com/stuff/spd/pedal_clip.jpg
http://www.bhop73.com/stuff/spd/pedal_platform.jpg Shimano mountain shoes.. passed on the roadie style. Being able to walk is nice. http://www.bhop73.com/stuff/spd/shoes.jpg[/QUOTE] (Must be an LA thing!! I have the exact same pedals and shoes from REI as well!) +1 on the M324 pedals and Shimano Mountain Bike shoes. Got mine from REI about a year ago and haven't gone back. Clipless pedals take a little bit of getting used to, and of course one has to have at least one mandatory slow motion fall, but after you get the hang of clipping in and out it becomes second nature. I've even had a few panic stops on my commute while being cliped in, and had the presence of mind to pivot my heels out to unclip. Congratulations - you made a great choice. |
I also have the same shoes and peddles on my new Surly Cross Check, very nice.
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