My Bicycle Parking Area as of 10AM This Morning
05-26-10, 10:08 AM
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My Bicycle Parking Area as of 10AM This Morning
When I arrived at work this AM, there were 5 motorcycles parked in the bicycle parking area where I lock up for the day. For some reason this bothered me today, so I sent an email to our head of security (below)
The reply from the head of security:
I'd like to report what may, as the summer progresses, become a
significant issue. The photographs in the link associated with this
email contain documentation of 5 motorcycles parked in the area reserved
for bicycle parking on the ground floor/ loading dock area near the 1st
floor entrance to the Basic Sciences Tower of the Health Sciences Center
as of 10AM on May 26, 2010. As this area is intended for bicycle
parking and is one of the few facilities provided for safe and effective
storage of bicycles in proximity to the HSC, the presence of these
motorcycles in areas designated for bicycle parking greatly limits the
access of this facility to those wishing to use it for the intended
purpose. My estimation is that the presence of these motorcycles in the
bicycle parking area this morning eliminated 8 available slots for those
wishing to lock bicycles there. Several times this spring, as I've been
preparing for my commute home by bicycle while one or several
motorcycles leaving at similar times and have been idling in the same
area thereby exposing me and others passing by to access the
Staff/Student parking lot to significant fumes associated with these
motorcyclists warming up their engines.
Further, to my knowledge, the loading dock area is a controlled access
area for motor vehicles and these motorcycles likely represent private
vehicles in the controlled access area.
I understand the desire of motorcyclists to secure their vehicles in a
protected area, but equivalent facilities exist in areas that are a bit
further from the building entrance and that do not limit use of bicycle
locking facilities. If motorcycles are permitted to park in this area,
I ask that signage be installed designating motorcycle parking and
bicycle parking. However, I don't understand why private motor vehicles
are allowed to operate and park in a controlled access area rather than
the gated (pay) parking structure directly adjacent to the building and
thus bypass the monthly access fee while simultaneously depriving those
who wish to use the bicycle locking facilities of proper access.
I present this only as an impending issue. While I know this is not a
daily or critical issue, I have noticed that it is more of an issue
during "motorcycle season." Whether enforcement action is taken, I will
leave up to you, but I do ask for vigilance in this regard and support
for HSC Faculty, Staff and Students who wish to commute by bicycle.
Thank you,
(name withheld to protect me)
Pictures can be found here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7912380...7624016779891/
Pictures (if you don't want to click the link)significant issue. The photographs in the link associated with this
email contain documentation of 5 motorcycles parked in the area reserved
for bicycle parking on the ground floor/ loading dock area near the 1st
floor entrance to the Basic Sciences Tower of the Health Sciences Center
as of 10AM on May 26, 2010. As this area is intended for bicycle
parking and is one of the few facilities provided for safe and effective
storage of bicycles in proximity to the HSC, the presence of these
motorcycles in areas designated for bicycle parking greatly limits the
access of this facility to those wishing to use it for the intended
purpose. My estimation is that the presence of these motorcycles in the
bicycle parking area this morning eliminated 8 available slots for those
wishing to lock bicycles there. Several times this spring, as I've been
preparing for my commute home by bicycle while one or several
motorcycles leaving at similar times and have been idling in the same
area thereby exposing me and others passing by to access the
Staff/Student parking lot to significant fumes associated with these
motorcyclists warming up their engines.
Further, to my knowledge, the loading dock area is a controlled access
area for motor vehicles and these motorcycles likely represent private
vehicles in the controlled access area.
I understand the desire of motorcyclists to secure their vehicles in a
protected area, but equivalent facilities exist in areas that are a bit
further from the building entrance and that do not limit use of bicycle
locking facilities. If motorcycles are permitted to park in this area,
I ask that signage be installed designating motorcycle parking and
bicycle parking. However, I don't understand why private motor vehicles
are allowed to operate and park in a controlled access area rather than
the gated (pay) parking structure directly adjacent to the building and
thus bypass the monthly access fee while simultaneously depriving those
who wish to use the bicycle locking facilities of proper access.
I present this only as an impending issue. While I know this is not a
daily or critical issue, I have noticed that it is more of an issue
during "motorcycle season." Whether enforcement action is taken, I will
leave up to you, but I do ask for vigilance in this regard and support
for HSC Faculty, Staff and Students who wish to commute by bicycle.
Thank you,
(name withheld to protect me)
Pictures can be found here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/7912380...7624016779891/
The reply from the head of security:
I will look into the signage issue, but unfortunately motorcycles are not allowed to park in the garage, it is a dangerous situation for them to enter the gated area. I will work with Parking and the HSC admin.
Any recommendations on how else to proceed?
05-26-10, 10:18 AM
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Motorcyclists are as bad as cagers sometimes. Is this area specifially marked with signs for bicycles only? If so they are in violation and thus need to be ticketed by security and their supervisors informed. Thats what happens where I work if you park you car even by mistake (and it happened to me) in a spot marked for supervision you get a ticket and your manager is informed. Three times and you get few days off.
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05-26-10, 10:31 AM
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You can get a beater bike and lock it to the most expensive motorcycle that is there.
05-26-10, 10:50 AM
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If the building received some sort of incentive for installing the bike rack, they're violating the spirit of the agreement by not ensuring that cyclists can actually use it, - all of it.
05-26-10, 10:50 AM
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They need to provide parking for people's vehicles. I'd say that they should be working to make the garage safe for motorcycles to use.
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05-26-10, 11:00 AM
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Though I would sure prefer to see bicycles in that space, I don't see many. Unless the motorcycles (or their riders) are really discouraging people from riding their bikes and using that rack, I'd let it go. Or get fifty more people to park bikes there, and see if the problem persists; then get back to us.
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05-26-10, 11:22 AM
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If you're lucky, they will enforce the rules. If you're not lucky, the motorcyclist will complain about parking and they might convert some of the bicycle space for motorcycle therefore limiting even more bike space.
05-26-10, 01:21 PM
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Get a few cheap u-locks at WalMart and put 'em around the front fork/spokes of the motorcycles.
If you want to be a complete prick about it (and I would,) get a small padlock and put it through the slot in the disc rotor. It will probably go unnoticed until the rider tries to roll his bike out and it ruins the front brake and he has to take a cab home.
-- Yeah, I've finally had it with people parking where they're not supposed to and a local PD that seems indifferent about it. Bike lanes, handicap spots, fire lanes, hydrant zones, etc. A guy zipped (illegally; no hang tag or plates) into the handicap spot my fiancee was going to pull into, and when I got out and yelled at him, his excuse was the standard "I'm just running in to drop this stuff off. I'll only be a minute." So I hocked a giant loogie on the hood of his car and told him I'll only spit on his car for as long as he leaves it parked illegally. I mean, it's not like I'm going to do it for a long time or anything, so that makes it OK, right?
If you want to be a complete prick about it (and I would,) get a small padlock and put it through the slot in the disc rotor. It will probably go unnoticed until the rider tries to roll his bike out and it ruins the front brake and he has to take a cab home.
-- Yeah, I've finally had it with people parking where they're not supposed to and a local PD that seems indifferent about it. Bike lanes, handicap spots, fire lanes, hydrant zones, etc. A guy zipped (illegally; no hang tag or plates) into the handicap spot my fiancee was going to pull into, and when I got out and yelled at him, his excuse was the standard "I'm just running in to drop this stuff off. I'll only be a minute." So I hocked a giant loogie on the hood of his car and told him I'll only spit on his car for as long as he leaves it parked illegally. I mean, it's not like I'm going to do it for a long time or anything, so that makes it OK, right?
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You did good sending the message to security.
Now the best thing you can do is try and coexist with the motorcycles.
Now the best thing you can do is try and coexist with the motorcycles.
05-26-10, 01:40 PM
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I'd just start cabling up to the front wheels of them motorbikes....... Just leave 'em a note, explaining that they are blocking the bicycle rack, and left no alternative.
05-26-10, 01:43 PM
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$*@)!(% Motorcyclists. They never cease to irritate me, no matter if I'm driving or riding.
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05-26-10, 01:50 PM
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Does't look like a big issue to me. I see plenty of bike parking there.
05-26-10, 01:56 PM
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Now if you do find no place to park, then next time drive to work with an old rusty beat up abandom bike. Ulock that beater to the nicest motorcycle with a note attached:
"Sorry but I cannot find a space to lock my bike so I did what was needed"
"Sorry but I cannot find a space to lock my bike so I did what was needed"
05-26-10, 02:03 PM
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Good job. I don't think you need to do anything else.
They may convert some of that area to motorcycle parking, but it sounds like they're just going to kick the motorcyclists out.
At my workplace, the bike rack is on the sidewalk and motorcycles have their own spots. Sometimes, cars park in the motorcycle spots and the motorcyclists raise perfect hell. I know I did when I was a motorcyclist.
They may convert some of that area to motorcycle parking, but it sounds like they're just going to kick the motorcyclists out.
At my workplace, the bike rack is on the sidewalk and motorcycles have their own spots. Sometimes, cars park in the motorcycle spots and the motorcyclists raise perfect hell. I know I did when I was a motorcyclist.
05-26-10, 02:39 PM
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Park him in, and say "We're only going to be a minute, or maybe an hour."
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05-26-10, 03:20 PM
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Get a few cheap u-locks at WalMart and put 'em around the front fork/spokes of the motorcycles.
If you want to be a complete prick about it (and I would,) get a small padlock and put it through the slot in the disc rotor. It will probably go unnoticed until the rider tries to roll his bike out and it ruins the front brake and he has to take a cab home.
-- Yeah, I've finally had it with people parking where they're not supposed to and a local PD that seems indifferent about it. Bike lanes, handicap spots, fire lanes, hydrant zones, etc. A guy zipped (illegally; no hang tag or plates) into the handicap spot my fiancee was going to pull into, and when I got out and yelled at him, his excuse was the standard "I'm just running in to drop this stuff off. I'll only be a minute." So I hocked a giant loogie on the hood of his car and told him I'll only spit on his car for as long as he leaves it parked illegally. I mean, it's not like I'm going to do it for a long time or anything, so that makes it OK, right?
If you want to be a complete prick about it (and I would,) get a small padlock and put it through the slot in the disc rotor. It will probably go unnoticed until the rider tries to roll his bike out and it ruins the front brake and he has to take a cab home.
-- Yeah, I've finally had it with people parking where they're not supposed to and a local PD that seems indifferent about it. Bike lanes, handicap spots, fire lanes, hydrant zones, etc. A guy zipped (illegally; no hang tag or plates) into the handicap spot my fiancee was going to pull into, and when I got out and yelled at him, his excuse was the standard "I'm just running in to drop this stuff off. I'll only be a minute." So I hocked a giant loogie on the hood of his car and told him I'll only spit on his car for as long as he leaves it parked illegally. I mean, it's not like I'm going to do it for a long time or anything, so that makes it OK, right?
I was going to go to work for a guy that was trying to get a company going building handicap vans and installing Equipment. He was a paraplegic from injuries he received in Vietnam.
Went to lunch with him one day and there was a car parked in the striped off area next to the parking spot. The place the ramp needs to drop.
He dropped the ramp on the roof of the car threw it in reverse and drive a few time and chewed the hell out of the roof and trunk lid. People were standing around cheering him on.
05-26-10, 03:46 PM
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As I recall (this was 15 or so years ago) he called the cops said there was an illegally parked car in the handicap spot (and the stripped off area is part of the spot) and since he could not get out of the van we drove off and ate at another restaurant.
05-26-10, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Aeneas
Any recommendations on how else to proceed?