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Old 06-25-10, 09:36 AM
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Motorists holding up traffic for you

when they have the right of way. Does this annoy anyone else?
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Old 06-25-10, 09:38 AM
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Old 06-25-10, 09:39 AM
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all kinds of a-holes annoy me
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Old 06-25-10, 09:41 AM
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EXTREMELY!!!
Even more so when the fools do this on a multi-lane street, motioning for me to cross while traffic in the lane beside them is blowing by at 45mph.
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Old 06-25-10, 10:36 AM
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If you wait long enough, they give up and go.

But yeah, annoying.
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Old 06-25-10, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by oakback View Post
Not just annoying, I find it dangerous.
That's probably why I hate it
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Old 06-25-10, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bax View Post
when they have the right of way. Does this annoy anyone else?
Nah. I appreciate that they're trying to be nice, and prefer this to someone in a Hummer buzzing me with nine inches and laying into their horn while they pass. If it's safe, I'll take the right-of-way they offered me, and if not, I'll stop and motion them on.

It can be a little tricky, because I tend to trackstand to avoid unclipping, so at 0 mph, I can't always take a hand off the bars to wave them forward. I motion with my head, and it takes the driver longer to figure things out, which means I have to hold my balance longer. Still, though, it gives me a challenge, and with all the outright hostility we see from drivers, I appreciate a little bit of niceness, even when it's misplaced.
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Old 06-25-10, 10:55 AM
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Sometimes it annoys me, most of the time I appreciate it. I think it annoys me most when they look insulted that I didn't cross in front of them. I think they're confused that adults are supposed to operate their bike like a vehicle, but children are supposed to stay off the roads and use the crosswalks. Most of them stopped riding when they were children.
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yes, it is dangerous
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They should take their right of way. I find it nice that they a trying to be kind, but the other lanes of traffic don't see what is going on. I will look around, down or drink my water bottle so they get the idea.
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Old 06-25-10, 11:45 AM
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All in all I definately appreciate the courtesy and always give them a wave and a smile after I wave them on, but when I'm on my bike, I prefer predictable to courteous. It just makes me feel safer. It gets annoying when they sit there and try and argue (through gestures) about it; okay, I get it, you're being courteous, here's your yellow sticky of appreciation! But it's not an afront on you, I just can't depend on all the other motorists to stop also.
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Old 06-25-10, 11:51 AM
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I agree...it's dangerous. I was in a close call because of a "good samaritan". They just do not watch traffic from the 2 wheel point of view.
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Old 06-25-10, 11:54 AM
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I assume they do it to be nice, but I find it annoying. At intersections like 4-way stops, I usually can't see them trying to wave me through until I've already slowed to nearly a stop anyway. Depending on my mood, I sometimes go through but 99% of the time anymore, I stop, put a foot down and wait, waving them on back. In most cases, if they'd just driven on (as they normally would have if I were in a car or if there were no one else there), they would have cleared the intersection before I would be rolling through anyway, even if I did an Idaho stop.

Besides it confuses anyone else approaching the intersection. So, yes, in a word - annoying.

In four words, annoying and potentially dangerous. (As others have pointed out)
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Old 06-25-10, 11:56 AM
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I understand their intentions are to be helpful and sometimes it works out. I prefer to obey the who-ever has priority is the one who should, car or cycle.
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Old 06-25-10, 12:18 PM
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Sometimes at 4 way stop sign intersections (without cross traffic waiting), I will fake turning right (even though I'm turning left), just to prompt the
car opposite of me to clear. Even though they were trying to be nice, and not assert their right-of-way (they got there first), I would rather them clear and not worry about wtf they might do.
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Old 06-25-10, 01:33 PM
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and then they get mad that I wont go...
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Old 06-25-10, 01:40 PM
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The latest example. Last week a woman in an SUV with her kids in the car pulled it on me. I was already stopped with a foot down waiting for my turn and she stopped and I wouldn't go. I kept and waving waving for her to go as she had the right of way. Finally she proceeded drove by me leaned on the horn and gave me the finger. Nice lesson for the kids in the car, hey kids, if someone doesn't kiss your ass for being nice you flip them the bird!

Yes. They are trying to be nice, granted the world needs as much as it can get, but I'm a vehicle abiding by the rules of the road. I want to be treated as such.
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Originally Posted by modernjess View Post
abiding by the rules of the road. I want to be treated as such.
I know someone who failed his DMV driving test because of a situation like this. He approached a crosswalk with a pedestrian waiting to cross the street, and slowed, but the ped waived him on, and he went. That was the end of his driving test; go back to start, and do not collect $200. It's illegal not to yield to a pedestrian at a crosswalk.

Granted, bikes aren't peds, but we're in a gray zone, not being full fledged vehicles, either. ( Before anyone denies this, think about how certain it is that you can get away with going "straight on red." ) Drivers are in a sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't position. If they're going to err, I'd much prefer for it to be on the side of safety. Even if I'm counting on them having cleared the intersection before I get to it, and they change my plans by being overly polite ... especially all the posts about some cyclist being killed in traffic.
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It is annoying. I do appreciate the sentiment, but it's counter-productive. It's not limited to bike/car interactions, either. I've had people try to yield their right of way to me when I'm in my car, too. Some people don't realize that this isn't helpful, and it doesn't speed up traffic flow to create a situation where everyone is trying to guess who gets to go next. What really bothers me is that 3/4s of the people who (I assume) are waving me on to pass in front of them are doing it from behind tinted windows. In can't see what they're doing, just that they're stopped at a 4-way stop and not moving. I just wait until they go, or, if that doesn't seem to be working and they're on my right, sometimes I make a right turn, then do a U-turn behind them. By the time I'm done with that maneuver, they have proceeded through the intersection and so can I.
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Old 06-25-10, 02:07 PM
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I know someone who failed his DMV driving test because of a situation like this. He approached a crosswalk with a pedestrian waiting to cross the street, and slowed, but the ped waived him on, and he went. That was the end of his driving test; go back to start, and do not collect $200. It's illegal not to yield to a pedestrian at a crosswalk.

Granted, bikes aren't peds, but we're in a gray zone, not being full fledged vehicles, either. ( Before anyone denies this, think about how certain it is that you can get away with going "straight on red." ) Drivers are in a sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't position. If they're going to err, I'd much prefer for it to be on the side of safety. Even if I'm counting on them having cleared the intersection before I get to it, and they change my plans by being overly polite ... especially all the posts about some cyclist being killed in traffic.
The situations I am talking about are *not* at a crosswalk;
They are in the middle of a block where a small street with a stop sign meets a through street, or where a MUP meets a street.
There are no signs nor crosswalk markings, and there is no excuse for a driver to be slamming on his brakes in the middle of the block on a four-lane street.
Doing so is dangerous, unpredictable behaviour.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
all kinds of a-holes annoy me
Especially when they're in front of me directly in my line of sight in a peloton.
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Yes, it's frustrating and dangerous when on a bike or in a car.
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I was ranting about this to a (non-cycling) coworker this morning! So glad I am not alone. This happens a lot in Calgary, where people are confused by cyclists and especially, it would seem, by visibly female cyclists (I have very long hair in a braid. I get very different driver responses when I put my hair up under my helmet or tuck it down the back of my jersey). And yes, I've had drivers get angry that I wasn't accepting their condescension in waving me on - but the other 3 lanes of 60 kph traffic kind of outweighed my desire to be polite.
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'Round here people are confused by cyclists who don't blow through stop signs. I've learned to just go.
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