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Old 06-29-10, 01:45 PM
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How shall we make our exciting new bike cage?

Well, the battle to keep my bike in my office is slowly going the way of the adversary - like I am surprised! Rule 23: No animals or bikes in the building. Building administration have examined the current options and have decided they are adequate. Yeah - right... My boss is now involved - all of them! No verdict at this time however, yet read on...

News today is that they have actually decided to build a NEW bike cage. Don't know where yet - perhaps in one of the garages that has surveillance (this building has four garages, two surveilled and two not. No prizes for guessing where the cage is currently located.)

And - amazing - get this: They are willing to ASK ME FOR ADVICE ON WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE NEW CAGE!

Now - like - Wow!

I wonder if it will happen - but I am going to make every effort to ensure it does!

So. If YOUR building admin were going to build a new bike cage, what should be in it, how should it be built? What sort of racks, any specific manufacturer or product, how should the door be locked, keys, combos, solid opaque walls, other ideas?

We are probably talking about a cage perhaps 10' x 10', 12' x 12' or the like, probably room for a dozen bikes. Anything special I might tell them?

Thanks - Lawrence
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Old 06-29-10, 02:18 PM
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Old 06-29-10, 02:26 PM
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I'd look for means to hang bikes in the cage, so that that you don't have to move/climb over others' bikes, to get yours out.
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My company makes devices that can send an alarm remotely, for example if a door is opened and breaks a contact point. It's all satellite transmission, so the device has to have a view of the sky. That might rule out the parking garage. But if not, it could alarm whenever someone opens the cage door. Might be cost-prohibitive as we generally have larger customers with vehicle fleets and such, but if not an issue, PM me.
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Old 06-29-10, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by truman View Post
I'd look for means to hang bikes in the cage, so that that you don't have to move/climb over others' bikes, to get yours out.
That would be excellent, do you know of any such systems or have you seen any? The car silo above is a good idea but our garage has 8 ft ceilings... Sigh - could stack 'em sideways I suppose...
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Old 06-29-10, 09:33 PM
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Are these bike can be lock to the rack inside the cage? If so, have them install a storage box with rings in them so that the personal U-lock can be store and locked in the box instead of having to carry them from and back to home everyday.
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Old 06-30-10, 04:51 AM
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IMHO: keep it simple. If you ask for too much that adds expense and doesn't get used, it'll nuke future attempts for any efforts. A simple cage; combo lock or other lock that works on existing hardware (e.g. contactless access control cards) on the door (so the bldg manager doesn't have to futz with issuing special keys and so that access doesn't become a barrier for new riders; and half as many easy-to-install Sheffield Stands as bikes are expected.

This page may be helpful: https://www.camcycle.org.uk/resources...parking/types/
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Old 06-30-10, 05:54 AM
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Does your company use keycards, like Datawatch or similar? I'd push for keycard access so there's also an audit trail. Beyond that, a floor to ceiling cage with adequate room for bikes. You may want to look at Arlington VA's rules, they have a formula for calculating the # of spaces based on employee/garage sizing.
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Old 06-30-10, 02:11 PM
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That's actually a reasonable compromise. Good on you for provoking it. +1 on the keycard access.
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If they're springing for stuff, you might as well make suggestions for the tip-top design and see what they're willing to meet you on:

Like others have said -
- Floor-to-ceiling cage
- Keycarded lock

Then think about the parking solutions -
- I like truman's idea for hanging storage. The cages at Microsoft's new office towers have both wall hanger and floor mounted racks. The wall mounts have an integrated cable hoop on the hanger so you can lock up. (cable is OK for their secure access cage in a monitored structure). See if they're willing to go for both in your new cage.
- Ask about lockers. It would be nice if they put in a rack of 1/2 height lockers that you could store your helmet, gloves, lock and cable, etc. and not have to drag them around.
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How about making a suggestion for bike lockers - they would be secure enough to not have to be in one of the garages covered by surveillance, although that would be nice. Security with a locker is top notch.
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Yea, I would try for individual bike lockers that only the bike owner and security chief have the key to for each individual cyclist locker.

Eliminates concern other cyclist might borrow something and give you room to keep helmet and other extra gear.
https://www.bikeparking.com/btwlockerp/index.html

And if the claim they are afraid of bombs:
https://www.ameribike.com/catalog/bik...wndow-lrg.html

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Bike lockers sound nice, but they take up quite a bit of space. I would say the basic cage with stands (make sure you have a say in which ones they put in, I have seen some atrocious bike stands around). Definitely push for card access if it is a possibility at your workplace. I would go for it and ask about small personal lockers for gear too. Make sure lighting is sufficient, having to do all of your bike stuff in the dark is no fun.

Good luck! It sounds like you are actually making some progress. I find it interesting that they classify bikes in the same sentence as animals in their policy...
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I find it interesting that they classify bikes in the same sentence as animals in their policy...
'Cuz you know we're just a "bunch of crazy animals"....

Seriously though....a well lit area with card access and non-wheel-bender racks would do me fine.

But since we're dreaming (and I've heard of other buildings with commuters having these), a corner with a locker holding basic bike tools and supplies, and a bike repair stand. I like the electrical outlet and pump idea too.

That being said, if we had one other cyclist working where I am, I'd be relegated to parking at the wheel bender in front of the building instead of the back room.
I'm spoiled and have gotten use to leaving the pannier and lights, etc. on the bike without having to carry a lock.
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