I read that in an article somewhere. It was mentioned as an aside but a quick search should produce something. I should explain that its not the amount of food that solely increases the footprint. It is everything that comes with higher intake. Growth, harvest, production, transportation, etc. All these combined are what is said to cause it to become moot.

Secondly, I never said I believed in the statistic. I was merely mentioning it as a bit of information I had come across. Not throwing my opinion for or against, just relaying it so one can make their own decision.

Third, once again, I dont say it because I believe it. I say it because it is fun to burst a person's bubble after hearing something for the umpteenth time. "Look at this guy, he is all for the green movement." "Well some studies say it is all moot." "Oh, guess he isnt." Thats all its about, just a bit of fun. Something more fun to say than, "Yeah I do it because it keeps me healthy." et al.

I like BF but I get tired at how seriously some people take things here. Arguments are started over the smallest things and comments are taken out of context. I suppose I should start drawing pictures with all my posts that way my ideas are COMPLETELY conveyed. Or include an annotation at the bottom*

*All that was included in this comment was meant to be read with a light-hearted demeanor. If at any point I offended anyone or presented an idea that is contradictory to what they hold to be true please consider this post to be a joke. For the sake of keeping the post free of unnecessary clutter, please reconsider any "correction" to this comment you may or may not feel compelled to post.

I do believe I have found my signature.

My favorite was the study suggesting that any carbon emissions saved by cycling are more than offset by the added life expectancy of cyclists (live longer, emit more co2)

Is BF the only forum you visit?!? Ever been on gaming, computer, paintball, car, <insert whatever here> forum? BF is relatively mild compared to some carnage that goes on on other forums. Even A&S is a walk in the park compared to some of them :D

It's also unrealistic for short trips; I get about 300 miles per tank on open roads, but I can't make 100 3 mile trips on a tank of gas because of all the time spent starting the car, idling, accelerating, etc. My gas mileage for my commute is about a third of what it is on the highway.

So let's set an age limit for cyclists. What, 70, 75. While we are at it, why no limit everybody's age. No only will co2 emissions be reduced but think of the savings in Social Security, Medicare, etc. Any volunteers?

Tattoo your belief on your calves. The more you ride, the bigger your message will get.

Being assumed to be green is a compliment. This shouldn't be difficult to fathom.
I like being the recipient of "green" comments, whether I'm on a bicycle or a Vespa. It's true: I'm one of them!

Those are idiots or trolls or both.

I love the comment about how many think that someone rides a bike due to the fact that they have too low of an income to drive. I don't understand the 18-22 year olds at my work who drive to work and have barely enough money to drive it to work. What is the point of working just so one can drive a car?

Whenever people at my work ask why I don't drive a car I explain to them that $650 a month is much better than $125 a month and driving :-D.

How about this: Grow a garden of only 12 square feet and include two chickens within the space. You will offset your carbon burden on the earth by doing so, year after year... plus earn fresh vegetables and eggs for your bother.

Ah, if it were so simple.

Preach it. I started biking because I didn't have a choice. Buying a car as a foreigner in Japan is complicated and I could barely order take out when I got here. But now that I have both the money and the language ability to go buy a car I don't want to. I can get anywhere I need to on my bike and it is just way more fun.

Cooperate America wants people to think that ANY activity that can be definted as "fun" MUST involve tons of mindless spending.

I visit other forums but BF is one of a very small handful I attempt participation in.

Personally I think saying, "Hey man, we fight much less than other guys so you really shouldn't complain about that" is being part of the problem, not the solution. Its like saying, "I only cheated on my wife once. This other guy I know cheated with 3 different women and even has a secret family, so Im not that bad."*

corperate america has made biking as expensive as you want to make it :-D.

That reminds me of this song...

If riding bikes is green, I don't wanna be red
I'd rather be caught pedaling on the street
Than sleeping in some other wifes bed!

Two of my bikes are green. My new pickup is kind of a teal. Just sayin. ;)

chicks - duh. :p

or noobs :innocent:

Cooperate America? Is that some lefty commie organization? :eek:

But that's assuming every car must slow at all, much less to 15mph, in order to pass. A lot of my commute is in a bike lane, with portions sharing a lane as well as taking the right lane of a multi-lane road. When on the multi-lane road, most drivers see me ahead of time and change lanes so they don't have to slow.

I think the difference is even more.

qft

"Are you a republican? If the answer is yes then I understand your pain on this matter. "


Ahh. ANOTHER tolerant, liberal who believes that Republicans want to breathe polluted air and have the rivers catch fire. I think I'll cool off by swimming in Al Gore's indoor heated swimming pool: which costs only $1000 a month to heat. If only I could afford such a thing to help the environtment like this Nobel prize winner can. Talk about "An Inconvenient Truth"...

lol

Aw, don’t be so jealous. Maybe you can work out a method to harness these flammable rivers you speak of to power our motor vehicles and get your own Nobel peace prize! :)

That study by professor Ulrich of Wharton was based on the assumption that if a couch potato car commuter switched to cycle commuting they would get healthier and live longer. His analysis suggested they might save a little energy, but only a trivial amount in the big picture. But generally the switch to bike commuting, or going beyond that and living car free, involves more than just that one change, such as eventually moving closer to work, owning one less car and replacing it less often, etc. Furthermore, if the non-cyclist was keeping fit by going to the gym etc. before switching to bike commuting, then the longevity argument fails.

http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/~ulric...viro-jul06.pdf

I do most things only because I get some enjoyment out of it or it makes sense to me.

1) I commute by bike because I like to
2) I have rain barrels because it easier than hauling out the hose
3) I have a small garden because my kids get a kick out of watching stuff grow
4) I've got a worm farm in my basement because............... well I have a worm farm in my basement.

Does it make me green? Only in my wallet.
I probably do more to "save the planet" than most even though I'm smart enough to know that in no way could I ever destroy the planet.

I vote conservative, republican. Al Gore and most Democrats are morons in my opinion.