Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt
(Post 11462990)
When you use enough tension sticky substances like Locktite, Spoke Prep, and boiled linseed oil are all unnecessary.
I tend to like something in there to help keep water out - water entry means galvanic corrosion. You're right, though, if a shop uses something like these to keep the nipples from moving, then the tension is so low that they've guaranteed that the wheel won't stay true, and they've made it a lot harder for whoever has to true it when it does go out of true.
Originally Posted by Drew Eckhardt
(Post 11462990)
You need anti-seize for alloy nipples and rims without eyelets. For other situations you can do that or use oil.
Excellent point.
akohekohe
09-18-10 03:48 AM
Originally Posted by diff
(Post 11481888)
Spent about an hour last night on this and brakes. Touched about 6 or 7 spokes. One of the tutorials I watched said to keep the tension even across the spokes. If you loosen 1, then tighten then 2 next to it each half of how much you moved it. Like tighten 1/2 a turn, then loosen the 2 1/4 of a turn. So pretty much what I did.
There are really four things you need to do with the wheel and truing is only one of them. The rim also has to be centered (called dishing), the spoke tension as even as you can (imperfections in the rim can make it impossible to get perfectly even tension, but you should be able to get close, if not time to replace the rim). The fourth thing is it has to be round. This is why when you true you tighten one spoke you loosen the spokes next to it - so the wheel stays round. However, in your case, when the wheel went out of true it probably also went out of round because the going out of true was cause by spokes loosening (and they didn't all loosen the same amount). This means that your loosening adjacent spokes when tightening a spoke is probably just perpetuating the out of round shape! What you really should do with the back wheel, which was way out of true, is to loosen all the spokes and tighten them back up evenly. Do this slowly and check the true, round and dish and tension as you go along and don't let any of these get too far out. Checking the round and dish can be tough without a truing stand but it can be done. Dish and be checked by turning the wheel around and putting it back in the frame - it should be in the same place it was before it was turned if it is in dish. To check round you need to remove the tire and rig up something to touch the outer edge of the rim. Tighten the spokes where it hits and loosen where it gets far away. It is really not that hard, just takes patience. The key is to control all four factors so that when you are adjusting one you don't knock one of the other factors out by too much.