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joshura 09-15-10 11:22 AM

Good Rims?
 
I need some sturdy rims for a potholed, curb-ridden commute
I want in a rim:
Eyelets
Welded Joints
Machined Sidewalls
Less than 25 mm width

Any Opinions?

LeeG 09-15-10 12:07 PM

how much do you weigh, size of tire and do you intend on carrying extra weight on the bike?

Andy_K 09-15-10 12:11 PM

Mavic Open Pro

jeffpoulin 09-15-10 12:14 PM

Mavic A719

joshura 09-15-10 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by LeeG (Post 11469347)
how much do you weigh, size of tire and do you intend on carrying extra weight on the bike?

I weigh about 180 pounds and i will be running anything from a 700x25 to a 700x42. I will be carrying weight on my back but not on the bike. I will, however be hopping curbs, potholes, etc...

joshura 09-15-10 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by jeffpoulin (Post 11469413)
Mavic A719

how well does this hold up to impact?

duppie 09-15-10 12:23 PM

Velocity Dyad: 24mm wide, available in 32-36-40-44-48 spoke count. It's a very common rim on touring bikes
We ride 'em with Schwalbe Marathon Supremes on our tandem. We are no lightweights either, at 400+ pounds combined
We did a ride where I hit a sunken manhole cover (2+inch bump) at over 30 mph. I fully expected the wheel to buckle, but it didn't give a squeak.

The wheel was hand built, and laced to a DT Swiss tandem hub

jeffpoulin 09-15-10 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by joshura (Post 11469439)
how well does this hold up to impact?

It's a very sturdy rim and will accept tires 28mm to 47mm wide. You could try 25mm tires, but I think they'd be a little too narrow. The Open Pros, as Andy_K mentioned, are great rim too, but they're rated for tires 19mm to 28mm.

joshura 09-15-10 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by jeffpoulin (Post 11469500)
It's a very sturdy rim and will accept tires 28mm to 47mm wide. You could try 25mm tires, but I think they'd be a little too narrow. The Open Pros, as Andy_K mentioned, are great rim too, but they're rated for tires 19mm to 28mm.

So curb hopping and such is no problem?

jeffpoulin 09-15-10 12:38 PM

With a well built wheel, no. Of course, with wider tires, the curb hopping will do less damage to a rim.

ghettocruiser 09-15-10 12:41 PM

Open Pros.

CliftonGK1 09-15-10 12:51 PM

DT Swiss R465 (replaced the RR1.1, same rim, new stickers). But I wouldn't run anything wider than a 35mm tire on them.

I saw someone else mention the Velocity Dyad, which would be good for running some wider (40 - 42mm) tires.

I dig my Sun CR18 rims, but they're a sleeved joint rather than welded.

I'm not a fan of the Open Pro, especially if you're going to be beating on it with curbs and potholes. I've seen too many of them with eyelets ripped clean out with a surrounding section of the rim.

duppie 09-15-10 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 (Post 11469735)
I saw someone else mention the Velocity Dyad, which would be good for running some wider (40 - 42mm) tires.

The Schwalbes on our Dyad are 35mm and hold up nicely.
So nicely in fact, that I am about to take delivery of a handbuilt Dyad wheel with the same tire for my single speed. It replaces the stock wheel which broke at least 6 spokes in the last two years.

ghettocruiser 09-15-10 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 (Post 11469735)
I'm not a fan of the Open Pro, especially if you're going to be beating on it with curbs and potholes. I've seen too many of them with eyelets ripped clean out with a surrounding section of the rim.

Weird. I've been commuting and mountain biking on them for 3 years. Barely a wobble.

canyoneagle 09-15-10 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by jeffpoulin (Post 11469413)
Mavic A719

+1
I just built one of these up on an Alfine hub and it is SOLID. The thing feels like it would do just fine mounted on a dump truck ;).

canyoneagle 09-15-10 02:44 PM

Umm, correct me if I'm off base, but aren't the Open Pro's more of a sturdy "training"/racing oriented rim? Seems a bit of a mismatch for hard duty and lots of bashing.......

fietsbob 09-15-10 03:42 PM

Sun CR 18, cheap enough to just replace when they are damaged,
rather than $70 a pop Mavics.

Andy_K 09-15-10 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by jeffpoulin (Post 11469500)
The Open Pros, as Andy_K mentioned, are great rim too, but they're rated for tires 19mm to 28mm.

I know Mavic says that. I've been doing cyclocross racing on them with 35mm tires. I guess if you plan to use wide tires, though, the A719 is a better choice.

As for curb hopping and such, the wheel build is more critical than the choice of rim. Most rims on the market can handle a lot of curb riding if they're well built (assuming a reasonable spoke count relative to bike+rider+cargo weight). OTOH, even the best of rims will suffer if the wheel isn't well built.

CliftonGK1 09-15-10 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 11470753)
Sun CR 18, cheap enough to just replace when they are damaged,
rather than $70 a pop Mavics.

Including shipping I didn't pay $70 for my pair of CR18s. They're a little on the heavy side, but they're rock solid and one of the few rims left that's still available in mirror polishing. Not "silver" finish. For real old-school shiny mirror polish that matches my shiny mirror polished stainless fenders, crankset, hubs and chrome racks.

gerv 09-15-10 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by CliftonGK1 (Post 11471091)
Including shipping I didn't pay $70 for my pair of CR18s. They're a little on the heavy side, but they're rock solid and one of the few rims left that's still available in mirror polishing. Not "silver" finish. For real old-school shiny mirror polish that matches my shiny mirror polished stainless fenders, crankset, hubs and chrome racks.

+1. When building my own wheels, I prefer this rim. Keeps the cost down and it seems to last a while.

joshura 09-15-10 06:46 PM

thank you all so much. i've decided on Mavic A719s with DT Champ spokes laced to Profile Racing hubs


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