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Originally Posted by tjspiel
(Post 11485884)
Essential: No. Can one come in handy? Yes.
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My one dislike with cellphones was having to pay out a considerable sum every month for something I hardly used. With the advent of prepaid cell phones and with roll over plans that are very generous for my type of usage, there was no need to keep putting off the inevitable.
My current cellphone experience has been great, no monthly payments, and no more searching for a pay phones(getting harder to find). |
I carry my cell phone because now and then on my bike rides I like to stop and take a picture of something interesting and text to my friends stuck indoors working. I love it! They hate it! Neener Neener.
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Not having a cell phone isn't an option here. Socially, professionally, whatever, and at all levels of society. But I use it for my convenience, not for the convenience of the caller.
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I used to have unlimited minute before I took up bike commuting. Today, I need less than 300 minutes a month. Getting away from behind the wheel to behind a handlebar can do that. However, I do carry carry a cell phone only because of my morning commute. Otherwise I really don't need it for the cellphone but I do use it for the other stuff like Craiglist bicycle sale listing :)
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I was knocked from my bike by two dogs breaking my femur, it was an empty road, I laid there for 30 minutes, unable to move, semi conscious. When I did come too I could not reach my phone, had I been able to, I would have been in the ambulance at least 15 minutes sooner. I think I will carry one.
I use my phone for business, checking on my wife, her checking in with me, we have no house phone, unless y'all use smoke signals or a can on a string, well, maybe rather than bicycles, horses. |
People without mobile phones kind of piss me off. And people who have them but keep them turned off -- unless they want to make a call -- REALLY piss me off. These people tend to expect me to have my phone on and answer when they want to call me.
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No! I don't talk on my phone while i ride.
Yes! I take it with me. No! I don't talk on my phone while camping. Yes! I take it with me. No! I didn't invent fire! Yes! I can make fire. I really don't understand the whole "I can survive without technology" thing. I can too, but it is VERY helpful. I want my family to know if i die. I want them to know if it can be prevented! I like changing my own flats, but i like checking hockey scores while i do it. Why the ruckus? Pay for it or don't. If you pay for it, i guess you are a slave to consumerism. If you don't pay for it, i suppose you are a free bird with a potentially shorter life span. I really think it's a stupid argument for times that are 'a changin'. edit; I honestly do respect anyone who can live without technology. I wish i could be that way, but we are all just so very different. That is what makes us great! Who cares? |
I find it hard to believe that some people don’t understand why there is a small backlash against these blasted contraptions. Every third driver is yakking on one when they should be concentrating on driving. People walking in public are oblivious to their surroundings as they focus on pressing tiny little buttons. Visitors coming to my house feel it necessary to call me three times to tell me “where they are now”. Guys in the supermarket can’t pick out a loaf of bread without phoning for assistance. Bike commuters are told they should have one “just in case”. Is it any wonder that some refuse to sign up for this madness?
I know, don’t blame the tool blame the user. But it sure looks to me like this recent convenience has negatively affected our quality of life in ways some fail to even realize. [/rant] |
Originally Posted by ilynne
(Post 11487714)
People without mobile phones kind of piss me off. And people who have them but keep them turned off -- unless they want to make a call -- REALLY piss me off. These people tend to expect me to have my phone on and answer when they want to call me.
Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
(Post 11487932)
I find it hard to believe that some people don’t understand why there is a small backlash against these blasted contraptions. Every third driver is yakking on one when they should be concentrating on driving. People walking in public are oblivious to their surroundings as they focus on pressing tiny little buttons. Visitors coming to my house feel it necessary to call me three times to tell me “where they are now”. Guys in the supermarket can’t pick out a loaf of bread without phoning for assistance. Bike commuters are told they should have one “just in case”. Is it any wonder that some refuse to sign up for this madness?
I know, don’t blame the tool blame the user. But it sure looks to me like this recent convenience has negatively affected our quality of life in ways some fail to even realize. [/rant] It's been a very interesting thread. The definition of "essential" is where I'm guessing part of the disagreement comes in. Another way to separate the important gear from the less important is to think about what you would turn around and go back for if you realized you forgot it. What would you go back and get if you were 2 blocks from home? What would you go back and get if you were a mile from home? There's some pretty important things I'd decide to do without. Even If I were only 2 blocks from home I'd probably leave my pump. I'd probably go back and get the battery for my light if I had to ride home in the dark, even if it meant turning back after a mile and showing up to work late. My cell phone? I'd go back a block to get it, but probably not after a mile. To be honest, the only reason I'd go back and get it after a block is that it's so handy to have throughout the day. I don't really care much about it for my commute. Yeah it might be nice to call somebody if I had some sort of problem. But I could fix a flat faster than anyone could come rescue me. For that matter I can get to a bus or train quicker than what it would take for most other help to arrive. |
My blackberry is essential for many things. my occupation requires me to be available 24-7 and it is also a courtesy for the people I love and the ones that love me. It is my music source, Internet, clock, phone, GPS, and it is also my backup modem for my systems when they go down. I think a great deal has to do with your lifestyle & the world does operate through technology and communication is the key to make things operate smoothly. For me the answer is very simple, Yes it is essential for me to have my Blackberry with me at all times because a great deal of people depend on me to make choices and decisions. If your lifestyle puts you in the role of leadership then you have no choice but to embrace technology and communication otherwise you will fail. I have let employees go for not keeping there phones that I pay for on at all times even when they are off the clock. In the world we live in today communication plays a vital role
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Seems like the OP has an issue with mobile phones. If you don't like them then don't use them, it's as simple as that.
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It's very funny how some people will use a computer and internet... but they hate cell phones and refuse to use one. A cell phone is just a tool, and it's a personal choice to carry one or not. I've got my first cell phone only about 4 years ago, and I am glad I did.
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I have a pre-paid one from T-mobile. Only costs $10 a year to keep it active after I initially paid $100 several years ago. I've used it several times to phone in other people's emergencies and weird things like a horse in the road. I occasionally use it to call my wife if I will be late so she won't worry. I have twice used it to call the police when motorists were harassing me. This did have the effect of getting the motorists to back off. I think you should carry one just in case you are seriously injured and still conscious so you can dial 911 for an ambulance. I also think it is a good idea as a harassment deterrent.
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Originally Posted by khutch
(Post 11487108)
A cell phone is just a tool. You don't have to carry a pump, you don't have to carry a phone. You will find either one useful from time to time and you will find the phone useful far more often than the pump.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 11486574)
Whoa ! Do you really believe that every person that carries a cell phone is because they are living in fear ?? I don't think most bicycle commuters give in and submit to Fear, and if they did they wouldn't be riding their bike in traffic.
Originally Posted by aggiegrads
(Post 11486795)
I'm not saying that anyone should leave all these things at home because they have a cell phone. I saying that not having any one of those things are the most common newbie mistakes. Even seasoned commuters forget to check the weather or loan out a tube and forget to replenish.
Having a cell phone is a convenience just like having a home phone or the internet is a convenience. Not everyone has the luxury of a flexible schedule that enables them to deal with any repair on the side of the road.
Originally Posted by khutch
(Post 11487108)
Actually it is the real world, not a Dune novel and it sounds like when you turn to see fear's path you see a cell phone!
Ken
Originally Posted by gbcb
(Post 11487518)
Not having a cell phone isn't an option here. Socially, professionally, whatever, and at all levels of society. But I use it for my convenience, not for the convenience of the caller.
Originally Posted by ilynne
(Post 11487714)
People without mobile phones kind of piss me off. And people who have them but keep them turned off -- unless they want to make a call -- REALLY piss me off. These people tend to expect me to have my phone on and answer when they want to call me.
Originally Posted by nashvillwill
(Post 11487789)
I want my family to know if i die. I want them to know if it can be prevented! [...] If you don't pay for it, i suppose you are a free bird with a potentially shorter life span.
Originally Posted by Ziemas
(Post 11488035)
Seems like the OP has an issue with mobile phones. If you don't like them then don't use them, it's as simple as that.
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Originally Posted by Standalone
(Post 11488203)
I don't really like them very much. And I'm discussing this. Maybe I don't like knobby tires too. I might discuss that as well, especially if everyone started acting like I was supposed to be using knobby tires.
Either way, it's quite simple; don't like them, don't use them. P.S. When has anyone given a rats ass about which tires you use? |
Originally Posted by tjspiel
(Post 11485884)
Essential: No. Can one come in handy? Yes.
You can survive without, but since a *most* people have one these days it seems foolish not to take such a useful tool with you. It can save your bacon in so many different ways. If you don't want to be interrupted by it - turn it off. I work in a water sports club and we ask people in certain boat types to take a phone in a dry-bag with them. That one in a million chance you need to be rescued is so much easier if you can phone for help (ie small boats that don't carry flares, VHF marine radio etc). Phones are cheap and reliable with dry-bags a bargain compared to the cost of the boats/kit that people buy (actually, we had a boat owner of a multi-million dollar Cat 1 offshore racing yacht complain about a new safety regulation requiring a new $1000 comms system! 20 people can die on your boat, a-hole, so just buy the new radio!) |
Originally Posted by Standalone
(Post 11488203)
Just
I'm a union guy, and from my perspective, taking on the expense of a cell phone and giving up the right to an understanding boss when a flat tire occurs is unwise. More responsibility for the peons, less for the mgt. There is a big difference between a good worker and a good employee. Good workers are a dime a dozen, a good employee is truly valuable |
Originally Posted by Ziemas
(Post 11488220)
Huh? Maybe you should reevaluate the people in your life if they are pressuring you to do trivial things you don't want to do. Or it could be that you are hyper-sensitive and want to show as all what a 'free spirit' or 'rebel' you are.
Either way, it's quite simple; don't like them, don't use them. P.S. When has anyone given a rats ass about which tires you use? |
Originally Posted by tsl
(Post 11485835)
Nope. I wouldn't even have a landline if I didn't need it for work.
I have no home phone and I can get home phone fore free. All I got was telemarketing calls on it mostly from the phone company (that I work for LOL) trying to get me to buy their Long distance that I didn't need. They were told to quit calling or we will disconnect. They kept calling and we disconnected. |
Originally Posted by Standalone
(Post 11488366)
WTH? You tell me I can't talk about cell phones. My point is that they're no less trivial than tires or whatever. Sorry you couldn't follow the logic. I'm evaluating the comments of people in the "essential gear" threads and on this one. Not my family, thank you very much. Good grief What's with the sarcastic personal insults? Relax.
BTW, where did I ever say anything about telling you you can't talk about mobile phones? Feel paranoid much? |
The iPhone has done more to improve the quality of life for more people than anything since the invention of the safety bicycle.
Just wanted to throw that out there. |
Originally Posted by Timber_8
(Post 11488354)
I have been in upper management for years and the term peons is extremely offensive.
If you'd like to make any assumptions about my selfishness or perhaps about my teaching ability, I can't stop you. You've got little idea what it's like to do what I do every day, which runs from cleaning the mouse poop and mold out of my leaky ceilinged asbestos tiled 58-degrees-in-the-winter classroom to taking knives off of kids to being told to rescind or re think any punishment given out to any kid who complains to administration about that particular consequence, for instance marking them late. Hey, I taught in NYC for 5 years and had no idea school systems could be this bad off. The kids are placed ahead of my "team" as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, if I'm so important and a cell phone is so important, then they can provide me with one. But I still don't think I need one on a bike ride. ;) |
Originally Posted by Ziemas
(Post 11488392)
You really care about what others find to be essential and find it to be pressurizing to you when you don't agree with them? Where's the logic in that?
BTW, where did I ever say anything about telling you you can't talk about mobile phones? Feel paranoid much? - hyper sensitive paranoid boy
Originally Posted by chaadster
(Post 11488405)
The iPhone has done more to improve the quality of life for more people than anything since the invention of the safety bicycle.
Just wanted to throw that out there. |
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