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Old 12-13-04, 04:08 PM
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8 blinkies wouldn't last as long or look at good.
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Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
8 blinkies wouldn't last as long or look at good.
Sorry if this is what you mean too, but I just want to add the Cat Eye will be brighter than all the blinkies too.
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I have to add, it's not the pinpoint brightness, it's also the size of the spot. You can have 1 massively bright LED and it might get lost as a distant spot of light. A large wide signature and you might get recognized better as something on the road.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
I have to add, it's not the pinpoint brightness, it's also the size of the spot. You can have 1 massively bright LED and it might get lost as a distant spot of light. A large wide signature and you might get recognized better as something on the road.
This is a very good point, when you get more than a couple of blocks away if the brightness were the same a larger size light is much more visible.

Believe it or not when tested under these exact conditions the smaller cateye 1000 is much brighter than the huge 4x6 realight (tested at night up to about five blocks away and all distances.(I have a straight unlit bike path near my house) And the smaller signature size flare is much brighter than the cat eye, you can see the light coming off the phone wires, the trees the houses the ground etc. It is so bright that it looks like a much bigger signature size to the eye. That I do not understand. They both do.

Here is a straight on rear picture of the Flare on the left, and the Cateye on the right, the flare is less than the size of the end of the cat eye (end of a D cell) the cateye is bigger (the side of a D cell). But what you see looks like a bigger light from the flare? Something to do with optics I suspect. The brighter light looks bigger even to the camera? Anybody know why?
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Old 12-13-04, 08:33 PM
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I thought this might be helpful, it's not the best, but I hope it helps a little.
The first picture should be the car at an angle. It's a VW Golf with the lights on.
On top of the car there is starting on the left and going to the right.....

A Vistalight 5 led super nebula

A Vistalight Eclipse 7 led light

The new Cat Eye 1000 10 led light

The Performance bike "Flare" 3 led light.

The close picture from straight behind shows a "halo" for lack of a better word that is biggest from the Flare and overlapped by the smaller Cateye "halo" and the other two dots. as you get farther away the two bright lights just take over. The new tech led's are pretty bright eh?

Compare them to the car lights at the long distance picture !

How's this for comparison?
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Even though the "Flare" clobbers them all from straight behind, to be fair, it's not as good as the Cateye from the side.

The Cat Eye has everything beat from a side view. Here they are together from the side.
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Old 12-13-04, 09:07 PM
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I can't find the "Flare" on the Performance site. They aren't carrying the new Cateye, either.
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The niterider's large cluster of 19 LED's are visible as that glowing glare not only from 4-5 blocks away but up to half a mile away. So a car on a road traveling at 60mph will have 30 seconds of warning when they see that huge spot.

What I want to know is, what kind of blinker is THAT?
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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
I can't find the "Flare" on the Performance site. They aren't carrying the new Cateye, either.
I forgot that I had to call and order over the phone, I get the mail order catalogue. Just call them or ask for a catalogue. One of my catalogues shows the red one (tailight,not the white one) as

40-1793c red rear $ 14.99

They do not have the Cat Eye yet, I got that From Harris Cyclery, Sheldon Brown ( he works there)has a web sight that I think is linked to on this thread. If not let me know.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
The niterider's large cluster of 19 LED's are visible as that glowing glare not only from 4-5 blocks away but up to half a mile away. So a car on a road traveling at 60mph will have 30 seconds of warning when they see that huge spot.

What I want to know is, what kind of blinker is THAT?
I think the Nightriders I had, have a wider "sweet spot" where the light is very bright from the rear too, no doubt it's a better light if you have the power to drive it. I had three, but they kept shutting off while I was riding.I never got around to analyizing it. It may have just been a loose connection in my harness. The thing switches on " break" not " make".

The flare is only three aaa's. Per your suggestion I just put litihum batteries in the Cateye, it's great, thanks. I have not been able to find any aaa lithium yet so the Flare is still on Alkaline, it will improve when I finally get to the store.

The lights on the car are the cosmic forces of the universe coming together in a..........

OK...........it's the Christmas lights on the bushes reflecting on the car.
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Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
I can't find the "Flare" on the Performance site. They aren't carrying the new Cateye, either.
The cateye light https://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/lighting/index.html

Take slvoid's suggestion and put some lithium batteries in it if you get one. It's a big help.
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Couple days ago I put my commuter on the trainer. For the halibut I took the Cateye 5 led flasher and put it underneath the Cateye 5 led flasher already on my CD. The result was impressive. I'd like to see that compared with these other blinkies. I will say that wimpy rear flashers have been a source of worry for me for years, and to finally have some real choices is a relief.
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Old 12-14-04, 01:58 AM
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combine a performance Flare and a Cateye 1000 and I don't see any way possible anyone could miss you from the rear... Wear one on your backpack and one on your seatpost or something.
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15 bucks is the brightest...some things I'll never understand

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Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
15 bucks is the brightest...some things I'll never understand
exactly!
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That, or a future Darwin Award nominee...
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Originally Posted by cryogenic
combine a performance Flare and a Cateye 1000 and I don't see any way possible anyone could miss you from the rear... Wear one on your backpack and one on your seatpost or something.
even with my setup I almost got hit last night. I have a very bright headlight 3 LED blikly lots of reflective tape. I was about 3/4 past this guy on the right when he desided to turn right. He saw me before he hit. but he must not have been looking at all not to see me. it was raining but I am still pretty visible. the 1000 had to be shining in his eyes and all that reflective stuff right in front of his lights.
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Good thing you have a good visual footprint or you would be in the hospital.

Glad to hear you're were saved.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I The flare is only three aaa's. Per your suggestion I just put litihum batteries in the Cateye, it's great, thanks. I have not been able to find any aaa lithium yet so the Flare is still on Alkaline, it will improve when I finally get to the store.

The lights on the car are the cosmic forces of the universe coming together in a..........

OK...........it's the Christmas lights on the bushes reflecting on the car.
Energizer sells lithium AAA's now.
I figure it's about 3x the price as alkaline but alkaline dims steadily as you use it and only maintain max brightness for about 1/10th its capacity, lithiums hold max brightness all the way until they're dry.
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Originally Posted by slvoid
Energizer sells lithium AAA's now.
I figure it's about 3x the price as alkaline but alkaline dims steadily as you use it and only maintain max brightness for about 1/10th its capacity, lithiums hold max brightness all the way until they're dry.
Thank you, that's a great thing to hear. That sounds worth the money to me.

Have you ever had a chance to compare total useable ( say max brightness, or any other way you want to define useable) run time, between the two types?

What have you learned about using the non rechargeable lithiums at or below freezing temps?

I also just got a huge new headlight with a Lithium-Ion rechargeable battery. They claim almost full run time in cold temps. Isn't that what you run the nightrider taillight on? Do you agree with them? Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
Good thing you have a good visual footprint or you would be in the hospital.

Glad to hear you're were saved.
I am debating on using my xenon strobe again. thst is the closest I have come to geting hit at night. usualy I have no problems getting seen. the strobe is hard to miss even if your not looking for it since it lights up the road and thigns on the side ofthe road.
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Wow the flare is impressive, thanks for the comparative photos! I'll be ordering one soon.

Has anyone used the white flare lights, is it as bright? I currently run one of the white cateye 4AA, 3 leds on "blink" as a "to be seen light".
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Originally Posted by Camel
Wow the flare is impressive, thanks for the comparative photos! I'll be ordering one soon.

Has anyone used the white flare lights, is it as bright? I currently run one of the white cateye 4AA, 3 leds on "blink" as a "to be seen light".
I have a flare white front light. So does my friend. It's about as bright as the five LED cateye front light he has one.

Make sure you look at the side view photo of the "Flare" Compared to the Cateye TL LD 1000. Its not as good from the side. For me Personally in traffic where the cars are close and I need side visibility the cateye is good. On century on the back roads where drivers speed.,but can see the bike from a long way away I like the flare. They are both bright lights. The BLT branded light that is the flare was found on this forum,it has a better tailight bracket I like that one better (Just the taililght) just the bracket part is better.

here is the BLT tailight https://www.blt-lights.com/rearsuperdoppler.htm

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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
I have a flare white front light. So does my friend. It's about as bright as the five LED cateye front light he has one.

Make sure you look at the side view photo of the "Flare" Compared to the Cateye TL LD 1000. Its not as good from the side... https://www.blt-lights.com/rearsuperdoppler.htm
Thanks for the info! As for the rear-I have the new cateye, I'd run it with the flare.
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Originally Posted by Camel
Thanks for the info! As for the rear-I have the new cateye, I'd run it with the flare.
Sounds to me like you're in pretty good shape!
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