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slowandsteady 10-11-10 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 11592602)
Heh, they need to not throw stones while driving that much of a chick car.

I owned two Miatas, a 1995 and a 2009. Great cars. Plus they come with two free OB/GYN appts and a life time supply of Midol.

slowandsteady 10-11-10 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by MDobrick (Post 11606416)
I too am guilty as charged. Except my SUV is a tad larger overall.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-LMhKLdJ-qQ/Rq.../03Yukon-2.jpg

I tow trailers. A lot. I put 30k miles on the Yukon last year alone with about 75% of those having another vehicle in tow behind it on an open trailer (Boat or another car). Of those trips with the trailer I can only think of a handful that I made without at least one other person, and often with 3 or more additional people in the car with me. There are VERY few vehicles that can safely carry more than 5 people, and tow over 5,000 lbs at the same time. So, please don't lump me in with the "lifestyle" SUV driver. Some of us actually use the vehicle for it's intended purpose.

With that said, I think AlmostTrick hit the nail on the head. You can't assume all drivers of one particular vehicle are idiots. Furthermore whomever made the comment that every SUV has an idiot in it is simply showing his ignorance. There are a lot of us that need/want the utility that these vehicles provide, yet are completely brain dead behind the wheel.

I hope this is a typo.

MDobrick 10-11-10 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by slowandsteady (Post 11606645)
I hope this is a typo.

Yea.....I'm fixing it now.

DOH!

Pug 10-11-10 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyBike (Post 11588277)

Fyi - my anti-malware program fired off when I went to this URL

drjava 10-11-10 03:45 PM

What I want to know is, why does it seem that drivers need to be doing something other than driving? What has happened to the attention span of most people?

JoeyBike 10-11-10 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Pug (Post 11607248)
Fyi - my anti-malware program fired off when I went to this URL

Thanks for the heads-up.

I just tried with IE and Firefox and no alerts. Never heard of that before. Vimeo is not heavy on the advertising like YouTube but some ad could have triggered your malware.

achoo 10-11-10 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by drjava (Post 11607366)
What I want to know is, why does it seem that drivers need to be doing something other than driving? What has happened to the attention span of most people?

Don't you know? Being able to "multi-task" is a sign of superiority.

KD5NRH 10-11-10 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by drjava (Post 11607366)
What I want to know is, why does it seem that drivers need to be doing something other than driving? What has happened to the attention span of most people?

My problem is that anything important enough to try to do while driving demands more attention than I can give it while I'm in the car. Heck, even when parked I tend to keep the phone calls short (and I use a Bluetooth speakerphone with voice dial) because I'm just not comfortable chatting with disembodied voices while sealed into a metal box. Pretty much everybody who calls me knows by now that they need to plan what they're going to say before they dial, because I will hang up on them if they start dragging out the conversation while I'm driving. (What's up with people calling and not having a clue what they need to say, anyway? I get a lot of calls at work that start out with, "Uh...hi...uh...this is _____ with _____...um...I was...um...")

fredgarvin7 10-12-10 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by achoo (Post 11608066)
Don't you know? Being able to "multi-task" is a sign of superiority.

I recently read a study that showed that "multitaskers" are deluding themselves if they believe they can efficiently perform more than one task simultaneously. The study found that almost always, both jobs are performed with much less accuracy and precision than when each activity was done alone. Ever wonder WHY there is so MUCH incompetance in the world? This is a BIG reason. Ironically, those who multitask believe that they can do it effectively. A review of their performance on multi-tasked activities was a huge suprise to these individuals when they saw how poor the results were.

It took a long time for my wife to realize this. She had a habit of reading the paper and watching tv at the same time. She only realized how badly she was comprehending when I started refusing to explain what was happening on a show, and started quizing her on current events.

bhdavis1978 10-12-10 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by KD5NRH (Post 11609546)
My problem is that anything important enough to try to do while driving demands more attention than I can give it while I'm in the car. Heck, even when parked I tend to keep the phone calls short (and I use a Bluetooth speakerphone with voice dial) because I'm just not comfortable chatting with disembodied voices while sealed into a metal box. Pretty much everybody who calls me knows by now that they need to plan what they're going to say before they dial, because I will hang up on them if they start dragging out the conversation while I'm driving. (What's up with people calling and not having a clue what they need to say, anyway? I get a lot of calls at work that start out with, "Uh...hi...uh...this is _____ with _____...um...I was...um...")

My wife gets cranky with me when I'm driving us somewhere in somewhat heavy traffic on unfamiliar roads and I stop talking to her or start giving her 'terse' answers. I tell her that I need to pay attention when I'm driving so that I don't get in a car accident, and then she'll often say something thinly guised as humour such as 'driving is hard'. At which point I will often point out that she has been in three bad car accidents, two of which resulted in more than one car having to be written off- and that I've got a spotless driving record (not strictly true, I was in one car accident- but I was t-boned by an idiot running a red light cause she was talking on a cell phone, so that wasn't my fault). The conversation usually breaks down at that point, cause she'll claim she was just 'teasing' me and I over reacted (and I probably did, and she might've been, but she was also trying to make a snarky comment and get away with it), at which point I just completely ignore until the traffic relaxes, I figure out where I am, or we arrive at our destination. Either way- my point was- even when I have a passenger who can see the road conditions, she doesn't always recognize that the road situation is getting (or is about to become) complicated and I need my full attention.

ItsJustMe 10-12-10 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by achoo (Post 11608066)
Don't you know? Being able to "multi-task" is a sign of superiority.

But not in the way you might think. It shows superiority in that they feel that texting their friend about last night's TV show is more important than the lives of anyone else on the road. That's how superior they are.

EKW in DC 10-12-10 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by fredgarvin7 (Post 11610553)
Ever wonder WHY there is so MUCH incompetance in the world? This is a BIG reason. Ironically, those who multitask...

Were you multitasking when you wrote this, or are you just a poor speller? ;) JK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompetence

no motor? 10-12-10 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by bhdavis1978 (Post 11610710)
My wife gets cranky with me when I'm driving us somewhere in somewhat heavy traffic on unfamiliar roads and I stop talking to her or start giving her 'terse' answers. I tell her that I need to pay attention when I'm driving so that I don't get in a car accident, and then she'll often say something thinly guised as humour such as 'driving is hard'. At which point I will often point out that she has been in three bad car accidents, two of which resulted in more than one car having to be written off- and that I've got a spotless driving record (not strictly true, I was in one car accident- but I was t-boned by an idiot running a red light cause she was talking on a cell phone, so that wasn't my fault). The conversation usually breaks down at that point, cause she'll claim she was just 'teasing' me and I over reacted (and I probably did, and she might've been, but she was also trying to make a snarky comment and get away with it), at which point I just completely ignore until the traffic relaxes, I figure out where I am, or we arrive at our destination. Either way- my point was- even when I have a passenger who can see the road conditions, she doesn't always recognize that the road situation is getting (or is about to become) complicated and I need my full attention.

I'm glad to see someone else who feels this way. I don't drive much anymore, but have managed to offend a few people by handing the phone to a passenger when the call got to be too distracting to me while I was driving.

pharasz 10-12-10 10:39 AM

I was buzzed by, get this, a PRIUS this morning. So for all you prejudicial posters assuming SUV drivers are the only inconsiderate oafs out there, think again. I mean, seriously - a PRIUS?

seenoweevil 10-12-10 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 11590597)
Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.

^^^^^THIS!^^^^^We are all ambassadors, every single minute we are on the bike. Besides, it really pisses people off if you act like it doesn't affect you!

KD5NRH 10-12-10 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by fredgarvin7 (Post 11610553)
I recently read a study that showed that "multitaskers" are deluding themselves if they believe they can efficiently perform more than one task simultaneously. The study found that almost always, both jobs are performed with much less accuracy and precision than when each activity was done alone.

IMO, in order to multitask effectively, at least one task must be something you can literally do in your sleep, and the other must be a low-involvement task and/or one that tolerates frequent pauses. For example, my mom can knit and watch TV, and still catch everything on the show except the few seconds when she's finishing a row and starting the next one. I usually read a book or website while I'm sharpening knives, (I can't stand a dull knife, and prefer that even the paring knives be sharp enough to shave, so this tends to be at least a monthly activity.) but I stop reading when it's time to change stones, strop or test the edge.


Originally Posted by pharasz (Post 11611306)
I was buzzed by, get this, a PRIUS this morning. So for all you prejudicial posters assuming SUV drivers are the only inconsiderate oafs out there, think again. I mean, seriously - a PRIUS?

Did you kick it out of your lane? :)

Pug 10-13-10 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by pharasz (Post 11611306)
I was buzzed by, get this, a PRIUS this morning. So for all you prejudicial posters assuming SUV drivers are the only inconsiderate oafs out there, think again. I mean, seriously - a PRIUS?

I'm wary of the Prius' because they're so quiet when in electric mode. At least I can hear an SUV coming.

ItsJustMe 10-13-10 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Pug (Post 11615451)
I'm wary of the Prius' because they're so quiet when in electric mode. At least I can hear an SUV coming.

Nothing's quiet on my route, because of the high speeds involved. Just tire noise is plenty to hear a car 200 feet behind me, far more for trucks with aggressive tread; I can hear their tire noise 1/2 mile back.

I don't rely on noise though, I have a mirror. I use both sound and sight.

jnbrown 10-15-10 04:08 PM

I know there must be some nice normal people that drive SUVs but they are the vehicles that I most encounter problems with on my bike.
The other day my wife and I were riding our tandem and we were going down a steep long hill in a congested area which has a traffic signal at the bottom.
Its always a "white knuckle" ride.
We were probably doing 40 mph+ which I believe is above or close to the the speed limit and I was partly out in the lane in case somebody opened a door or pulled out from the curb.
So a speeding SUV pulls around us and passes probably going 50 mph and then we get to the signal which is green and the SUV is at a dead stop with no turn signal so I don't what they are doing and I have to slam on the brakes and then a car turning left at the intersection almost hits us. I usually don't confront motorists but I just lost it and yelled at this idiot.
Further down the road he catches up to us and says what did I do? Well you passed me when you didn't have to and then you stop at a green light forcing me to slam on my brakes and take evasive action. Need I say more?

UrbanWarfare 10-18-10 03:03 PM

I'm all for u-lock justice. I carry two u-locks a Kryptonite and a Masterlock. The Kryptonite is for close-combat when someone in a car chooses to stop for an extended yelling. Depending on the insinuations made upon my character, and the degree to which my mother is brought into it guides my decision making process when looking betwixt the mirror and the windshield. However, if they yell, or refuse to give me my three feet as mandated by the Mayor of Los Angeles I assume that I am legally bound to use my Masterlock for ranged combat. Atleast these are the things I dream about. In reality I cower in fear from SUV drivers.

JeffSG 10-18-10 03:12 PM

I listen to music on my iTouch while I ride. While I know they occasional say things to me, I point to my ears and let them know I can't hear them. Also, I almost always waive at them and smile if I know they are trying to get my attention.

Ride safe,

Jeff

no motor? 10-18-10 03:13 PM

This mornings traffic concern? The woman in the SUV who made a right turn on red in front of me without looking before she turned right. I saw how intensely she was concentrating on her phone call and stayed way out of her way. I don't think she ever noticed me.

genec 10-18-10 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by drjava (Post 11607366)
What I want to know is, why does it seem that drivers need to be doing something other than driving? What has happened to the attention span of most people?

The same thing that happened to "safe following distance" and the "use of the turn signal..." they seem to have gone the way of "common sense" and flew the coop. Odd eh? Maybe the addition of the right hand mirror and the 3rd tail light were enough to warp all American drivers.

Titmawz 10-18-10 03:53 PM

yeha people in SUVs and Vans are stoopid as excrement. Definitely can not drive at all. Atleast in Miami, Fl. To not be rude to people on this forums that own those types of automobiles.

BA Commuter 10-18-10 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by travelmama (Post 11587715)
You should have invited him in for a cup of tea and a scone.

I don't care what you drive or which way you wear your hat, that's funny stuff right there!


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