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To save the time of others, the product idea is a combined helmet and lock.
This seems like a silly idea to me. Paul |
Originally Posted by paul2432
(Post 11732151)
To save the time of others, the product idea is a combined helmet and lock.
This seems like a silly idea to me. Paul |
Can't imagine having the weight of a lock that is at all substantial attached to my helmet. Guess it would help build up those weak neck muscles.
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It took me about 1 minute, and after all it's just a school project. They can learn just as much about business trying to bring a doomed product to market as a they can with a good one. Probably more, actually :lol:
How about a helmet with a small loop of cable hanging off the back that you could pass a U-lock or a cable lock through? There, there's your idea. I don't have time to bring that one to market, you can have it. You're welcome! |
Originally Posted by paul2432
(Post 11732151)
To save the time of others, the product idea is a combined helmet and lock.
This seems like a silly idea to me. Paul |
Originally Posted by sdold
(Post 11732206)
How about a helmet with a small loop of cable hanging off the back that you could pass a U-lock or a cable lock through?
On my helmet there is only one hole my u-lock fits through, and sometimes I can't get it in. edit1: ok that last sentence sounded dirty. edit2: i suppose bolts that attach the cable to the helmet going through my skull in a crash might be a downer. |
If you pass the lock through the triangles of the straps the helmet can't be snatched without rendering it useless. Does someone really want your sweaty helmet that bad? If they just want to vandalize then neither is a deterrant.
I just put more effort into this thread than the lazy OP |
I don't want my helmet locked onto my head!
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Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
(Post 11732423)
I don't want my helmet locked onto my head!
Ain't that what "The Man in the Iron Mask" is about??:rolleyes::p |
Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
(Post 11732423)
I don't want my helmet locked onto my head!
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If they want to combine things with a lock, how about something that should be made a of steel (rather than foam):
A combination multi-tool and bike lock. It would be one of the first multi-tools that actually offered users some leverage for torquing pedals and cranks. I hereby declare that this is the first posting of such an idea and I will be pursuing patent rights. That said, you're welcome to develop it and send me royalties. |
Frame mounted Ring locks keep the bike from being rolled off, add a chain or cable to lock it onto to stuff.
proven and sold by the zillion, My Koga Miyata NL bike came with one installed. |
How about a helmet with built-in lights? or a way to affix a Kensington style computer security cable? Or a battery powered seat warmer? hmm... now I want a battery powered seat warmer... If anyone makes money off that idea, I want a free one and a sandwich!
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Originally Posted by tligman
(Post 11732925)
How about a helmet with built-in lights? or a way to affix a Kensington style computer security cable? Or a battery powered seat warmer? hmm... now I want a battery powered seat warmer... If anyone makes money off that idea, I want a free one and a sandwich!
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OP here!
Thanks everyone who got to take the survey before it got moved to the survey section, then deleted. Sorry I missed that section to begin with - I didn't mean to come in here and break the forum rules. We do appreciate the feedback - positive or negative - but I thought I would come on and add some detail to the concept. The idea is indeed to create a combined bicycle helmet & lock targeted at your everyday urban biker or commuter. We hope to provide a cost savings on the total package while helping to avoid the awkward transportation of a lock and the need to carry your helmet with you. The basic concept is for a three piece helmet as seen in the rough picture below. The top of the helmet will flip up and out of the way. The other two pieces can wrap around the bike to secure it. It would have a lock in the front. There are clearly a lot of challenges with the design but before we address those we want to validate that the market exists and see if it is willing to pay a price that would be required to address those challenges. Please keep in mind this is a school project. Thanks again for all the feedback! I'm hesitant to provide a link to the survey again, but please let me know if you want it. btw, I liked a lot of the ideas above - wish we had thought of those :-) Here is a very rough idea of the concept: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=176819 |
Hey OP,
Not sure if that's your bike in the picture... but the fork is busted. Might wanna swing by your LBS and get that sorted out. |
A century jacket with flexible solar panels on the upper shoulders that connects to two standard USB female outlets - one that leads to a rear low pocket, the other to a front breast pocket.
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1) Removable parts will weaken the helmet. A helmet is made of solid piece of material.
2) Helmet is not made of material that can withstand cutting tools the way regular lock or even cable can. I think you should really redirect your creative energy at something that makes more sense. |
Originally Posted by RichardGlover
(Post 11733190)
A century jacket with flexible solar panels on the upper shoulders that connects to two standard USB female outlets - one that leads to a rear low pocket, the other to a front breast pocket.
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a rain covered helmet/ with a light as most helmet light mounts strap onto bare helmets
preventing the use of a rain cover on the helmet .. |
Originally Posted by OneIsAllYouNeed
(Post 11733153)
Hey OP,
Not sure if that's your bike in the picture... but the fork is busted. Might wanna swing by your LBS and get that sorted out. |
Interesting concept, I hope your not serious though! Sounds dangerous for your head and the safety of your bike.
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Originally Posted by SumpiTwo
(Post 11733127)
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Your idea will not work. No one is going to carry the weight of a lock on their head. Perhaps a bike pump that doubles as a u-lock would work.
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Originally Posted by paul2432
(Post 11732151)
To save the time of others, the product idea is a combined helmet and lock.
This seems like a silly idea to me. Paul |
Add me to the Nope! List. This ~might~ make conceptual sense, in the vaguest possible way, for the very casual biker. It would NOT make sense for a serious daily cyclist. Why?
As others have already pointed out, the purpose of lock and helmet, and construction of each are basically incompatible. Helmets should be light and crushable. Locks should be nearly impregnable without serious tools. No one material will have both these characteristics, or allow for the creation of one device with both characteristics. Further, putting significant extra weight on the head is counter to good survivability in a crash, not to mention uncomfortable. Lastly, the idea of a multi-piece helmet is not out of the question, but it adds a lot of compromises (Motorcycle helmets with movable chin bars come to mind). It necessarily adds weight, increases complexity of manufacture and use, and probably compromises comfort. It seems to me a better solution would be to create a lighter-weight, high security lock which could comfortably mount on the widest variety of frames without the excessive girth of a typical U-lock. Of course, I'm sure the major players have been working on this for years... so good luck. Or maybe a combination water bottle cage/ u-lock ;-) |
I'd lose the helmet aspect, or at the very least the idea of the helmet also being a lock.
Helmets are awkward to carry around, maybe you could make a device that attaches the helmet to a lock securely in some fancy fashion. It's not needed, since putting the lock through the straps work, but there are A LOT of useless products made for vanity or perceived convenience around. Make a "pretty" model as well as an industrial model and you'll get both sexes thinking it will make a cool accessory. |
What would be truly revolutionary: a security cable made of some ultralight, super strong, space-age fibre materials. Few milliliters thick, few ounces light, un-cuttable with any known metals or diamonds, indestructible.
Did anyone read "Ringworld"? That's what I'm talking about :D |
Originally Posted by AdamDZ
(Post 11739967)
What would be truly revolutionary: a security cable made of some ultralight, super strong, space-age fibre materials. Few milliliters thick, few ounces light, un-cuttable with any known metals or diamonds, indestructible.
Did anyone read "Ringworld"? That's what I'm talking about :D |
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