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Old 11-04-10, 10:59 AM
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Studded Tires?

Hello. I am a bike commuter in Cleveland, OH and I would like to extend my commuting season into the winter months. I've heard of people using studded bicycle tires. Can anyone offer any brand/model suggestions and where to purchase them on-line?

I ride a Trek 1200 rode bike, Shimano 105 with "Biopace" chainrings. It's over 20 years old and was manufactured by Trek in Wisconsin. This bike has been a faithful workhorse all these years. Last year, I finally upgraded rims and other parts.

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Old 11-04-10, 11:07 AM
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The smallest studded tires available are too big for your bike. They won't fit under your brakes, and they might hit your chainstays, too.

I'm a big fan of Nokian Hakkapeliitta W106 700x35 tires. Search google shopping for "Nokain W106", they're about $50/each. You'll probably need a new hybrid or cyclocross bike to go with them, however.
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Old 11-04-10, 11:34 AM
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Since your road bike is older, there's a chance you might be able to squeeze the Nokian A10s in there. They are listed as 32mm but they're more like 30. They fit on my 87 Peugeot road bike without any problem. However, they're not the greatest as far as studded tires go. Not much better than a non-studded tire actually.

FWIW, I was also able to get Schwalbe's 35mm Marathon Winters to fit, but just barely. I wasn't very comfortable with the tiny bit of space that was left between the tire and brake bridge.
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Old 11-04-10, 11:44 AM
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I got my Nokian Mount & Ground W 160's from Peter White Cycles. Excellent service, He is very knowledgeable. You will have to call him to order. He has a web site, but, doesn't actually sell from the site, like most others.

His site is almost as informative as Sheldon Brown's site.
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Have you considered a "winter bike"? A hybrid, mountain bike, or touring bike will give a lot more clearance for wider tires and fenders. You will want fenders in the slush.
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Old 11-04-10, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xtrajack View Post
I got my Nokian Mount & Ground W 160's from Peter White Cycles.
those are the same tires i'm considering slapping on my mountain hybrid for my first attempt at full 4-season riding this winter. have you been satisfied with them? peter white describes it as a good all around tire, have you found that to be true? i have a mixed urban street/bike path commute and i think i need something a little more rugged than the Hakkapeliitta W106 because the conditions on the lakefront bike path can be more "unmaintained" than regular city streets.
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Old 11-04-10, 01:08 PM
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To second dcrowell's comment, narrow tires do not fare well in winter conditions. If you insisted in fitting some, though, onto your road bike, you might try Continental TopContact Winter that come in narrow versions too. These supposedly feature particles built into the rubber, to improve grip, rather than incorporate studs. I have no own experience with these tires yet, but I ordered a wider one for a trial and it should reach me any day now.
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Old 11-04-10, 01:23 PM
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Have 10+ year old Nokian Mount & Ground W 160's, where I live I don't need them daily.
26x1.9''
I put them on when the black ice is forecast to be on the ground ..

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With the amount of snow that Cleveland gets. You almost have to go with something that will handle a big, wide tire. The wider the better. Myself, in those conditions I would'nt settle for anything less than 2". The more studs, the better. I use a pair of Nokian Extreme 294's on a second set of rims to make changing wheels a snap. We don't get half the snow you get but we get our share. And IMO, nothing rides better on ice or frozen hardpacked snow than Nokians. Or make your own. Find out how in the Winter forum. You can buy studded tires anywhere on the web. Just search around and look for the best price. If I lived in Cleveland I'd be riding a Pugsley with homemade studs on my 3.9 endormorphs. That would be the ideal bike for where you're at.
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I have the same tires ^^^ love it when I get to use them.
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I run Marathon Winters. They are a good tire all around. But, not that much for deep snow. Mostly for ice and light snow.
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
those are the same tires i'm considering slapping on my mountain hybrid for my first attempt at full 4-season riding this winter. have you been satisfied with them? peter white describes it as a good all around tire, have you found that to be true? i have a mixed urban street/bike path commute and i think i need something a little more rugged than the Hakkapeliitta W106 because the conditions on the lakefront bike path can be more "unmaintained" than regular city streets.
I have been very satisfied with them, other than the weight and rolling resistance--but that is the nature of the beast.

I was riding along one night on my way in to work last winter, I was on a downhill run, hit a patch of ice approximately a couple of inches high, thirty yards long. I hit it hard enough that it broke the zip tie that held my "see me" light on my bike. I hit the brakes, stopped, and went an picked up my light. I felt that my tires helped me stop with out skidding and losing control.

I will say that while they are great on ice, they leave something to be desired in about 4 inches of heavy, slushy, wet snow.
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Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
Have you considered a "winter bike"? A hybrid, mountain bike, or touring bike will give a lot more clearance for wider tires and fenders. You will want fenders in the slush.
It makes winter that little bit nicer...........

I used an MTB last year without fenders as I was doing some work on my normal commuter, and it was a horrible experience in the snow and sluch.

I'm ready this year with some Schwalbe Ice Spikers and 60mm SKS fenders.


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Old 11-05-10, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by xtrajack View Post
I have been very satisfied with them, other than the weight and rolling resistance--but that is the nature of the beast.

I was riding along one night on my way in to work last winter, I was on a downhill run, hit a patch of ice approximately a couple of inches high, thirty yards long. I hit it hard enough that it broke the zip tie that held my "see me" light on my bike. I hit the brakes, stopped, and went an picked up my light. I felt that my tires helped me stop with out skidding and losing control.

I will say that while they are great on ice, they leave something to be desired in about 4 inches of heavy, slushy, wet snow.
thanks for the feedback. i can't imagine any situation where i'll actually be riding through 4" of unplowed, uncompacted slushy wet snow. despite our overblown reputation for miserable winters, chicago doesn't really get a remarkable amount of snow; due to W-E prevailing winds it's the other side of the lake that typically gets dumped on with foot upon foot of lake effect snow. on those days that are truly sloppy, gloppy and gross i'll simply just ride the train in, so these tires will probably suit my needs just fine.

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Old 11-05-10, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dcrowell View Post
Have you considered a "winter bike"? A hybrid, mountain bike, or touring bike will give a lot more clearance for wider tires and fenders. You will want fenders in the slush.
+1 on this; an older, rigid MTB found on Craiglist would likely make a great winter commuter. If you need the road bike feel and geometry to feel comfortable, then a touring or CX bike is in order.

I use Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires on my bike. They are a great balance between traction and rolling resistance. They handle about 95% of whatever winter throws at me. For the other 5% nothing short of a second bike with aggressive, single-track-inspired studded tires will do. On those days I get a ride or take the bus. BTW I've been to Cleveland in the winter and we get the same Lake-effect type of weather as you do up here, so I feel confident in recommending these tires to you.

http://www.schwalbetires.com/node/1788

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