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Why want to be identified as a bike?
Some people use reflective tapes etc. on their pedals or legs at night so they can be identified as a bike on the road to avoid being hit by cars. My question is, what if your reflective stuffs or lights etc just make you look like some moving objects, doesn't have to be recognized as a bike--for example some drivers may think, from distance, that you are a car... Wouldn't that be better? If they think you are a car, they will even be more careful not to hit you and will give you more room :D. On the other hand, some evil drivers deliberately try and hit cyclists out of hatred or whatever. So identifying yourself as a cyclist on the road among the cars may not do good (comparing to being mistaken as a motor vehicle, that is).
Thoughts and comments? |
Originally Posted by vol
(Post 11793979)
Some people use reflective tapes etc. on their pedals or legs at night so they can be identified as a bike on the road to avoid being hit by cars. My question is, what if your reflective stuffs or lights etc just make you look like some moving objects, doesn't have to be recognized as a bike--for example some drivers may think, from distance, that you are a car... Wouldn't that be better? If they think you are a car, they will even be more careful not to hit you and will give you more room :D. On the other hand, some evil drivers deliberately try and hit cyclists out of hatred or whatever. So identifying yourself as a cyclist on the road among the cars may not do good (comparing to being mistaken as a motor vehicle, that is).
Thoughts and comments? |
Originally Posted by Chris L
(Post 11794005)
I'm not sure whether you're serious or not, but how exactly do you plan to make a bicycle look like a car, at any time? Consider the size difference for a start.
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I don't care if they mistake me for their aunt Shirley; as long as they see me. That is why I light myself up like a Christmas tree. Assuming that they're not a sociopath, it should trigger some sort of being-careful type response.
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Originally Posted by ChrisO
(Post 11794023)
I don't care if they mistake me for their aunt Shirley; as long as they see me. That is why I light myself up like a Christmas tree. Assuming that they're not a sociopath, it should trigger some sort of being-careful type response.
I'm on team Christmas tree. |
Originally Posted by vol
(Post 11794020)
I don't "plan" to look like a car, but if I don't use a light or reflective band on wheels or pedals, what drives will see from distance will be some moving object (the light is moving). In distance they can't tell if it's a bike or a car. I was just wondering if some people want to be identified especially as a bike as opposed to a car (rather than opposed to, say a still object with a light).
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I want to be identified as a bike so that drivers know that I'm not going to be going 30mph+ and therefore they should slow down. Doesn't always work, but it is a start. +1 for just wanting to be noticed too.
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Originally Posted by vol
(Post 11794020)
In distance they can't tell if it's a bike or a car. I was just wondering if some people want to be[I] identified especially as a bike as opposed to a car (rather than opposed to, say a still object with a light).
Either way they wouldn't prepare for the need to pass me at a safe distance. So I'd rather have following drivers know in advance that there's a bike up ahead and not be surprised at the last moment. |
I want to look like a tractor trailer rig.
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Originally Posted by vol
(Post 11794020)
I don't "plan" to look like a car, but if I don't use a light or reflective band on wheels or pedals, what drives will see from distance will be some moving object (the light is moving). In distance they can't tell if it's a bike or a car. I was just wondering if some people want to be identified especially as a bike as opposed to a car (rather than opposed to, say a still object with a light).
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I wanna be an UFO
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Originally Posted by fizzaly
(Post 11794714)
i wanna be an ufo
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As much visibility as possible, and I would like to be seen as a slow moving object from as far away as possible. Blinking lights front and back, and a construction worker vest do the trick for me.
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Originally Posted by Chris L
(Post 11794005)
I'm not sure whether you're serious or not, but how exactly do you plan to make a bicycle look like a car, at any time? Consider the size difference for a start.
There are ways.... http://www.thepeddler.com/blog/wp-co...porsche_13.jpg |
Originally Posted by JPprivate
(Post 11794702)
The brain will try to make sense of the signals it gets from the eyes. The sooner this happens, the quicker the brain can decide on the correct action. To delay this process is not a good idea.
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Originally Posted by doc0c
(Post 11795178)
As much visibility as possible, and I would like to be seen as a slow moving object from as far away as possible. Blinking lights front and back, and a construction worker vest do the trick for me.
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I'm still running an old-school HID light, which cannot be easily flicked on and off like the LED headlights today.
Last night on the way home this became a minor issue, as I needed to turn left in a quiet residential street. A car at stop sign was emerging from this same street intending to turn left. If I could have just flicked the light off and gone stealth, she would never have noticed me and pulled out, and I could quietly gone behind her and flicked the light back on. But instead, she sees my HID moto-wanna-be light and hits the brakes, then I have to turn across her path in front of her while she slowly rolls forward (they all do that) since there is no way in hell she could see my arm signals behind the beam at night. It wasn't dangerous, but it was not my preference either. That is all. |
The only surefire way to get people to slow down would be flashing red and blue lights on the back of your bike, which is almost certainly illegal everywhere.
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Originally Posted by ghettocruiser
(Post 11795464)
Last night on the way home this became a minor issue, as I needed to turn left in a quiet residential street. A car at stop sign was emerging from this same street intending to turn left. If I could have just flicked the light off and gone stealth, she would never have noticed me and pulled out, and I could quietly gone behind her and flicked the light back on. |
Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 11795366)
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Originally Posted by Artkansas
(Post 11795540)
In such cases I get stubborn. If they have the right of way, they'd better take it or we will both be waiting for a long time. I will not tolerate such "Nanny Driving" from motorists.
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Originally Posted by vol
(Post 11793979)
On the other hand, some evil drivers deliberately try and hit cyclists out of hatred or whatever. So identifying yourself as a cyclist on the road among the cars may not do good (comparing to being mistaken as a motor vehicle, that is).
Thoughts and comments? Making yourself visible also makes you more visible to possible witnesses of the deliberate act. |
Originally Posted by calamarichris
(Post 11795785)
If you must jump to such cynical conclusions, consider how wearing lights, reflectors, bright colors, etc. will look to the jury & judge at the hypothetical evil motorist's trial..
I've also had a hostile motorist tell me that all my reflective tape and lights "proved" I set out intending to "block a lane". But these guys were quacks. I think the majority of motorist interactions benefit heavily from increased visibility. |
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