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Old 01-09-11, 01:16 PM
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What about 26" tires?

I was reading that other thread about tires and it got me to thinking. My current tires came stock on a 2006 Kona Smoke. Bought the bike new from the LBS in '08, put didn't really start using it until this past Summer. I've had four flats, but 3 of those were from pinch flats- my ignorant self thought that the air pump at QT would pump enough pressure into them .

I don't know a folding from a wire bead. I'm a Clyde at roughly 230. I pretty much stick to the asphalt, but there are some spots where I encounter either gravel, sand, or packed dirt. I've ridden in both dry and wet conditions (and looks like possibly snow this week...).

Any suggestions on what or where to buy?
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Easy one first: folding beads use Aramid cords instead of steel wires, making the tire lighter.

Beyond that, it's not 100% clear yet what your top priorities are. Do you want more pinch-flat resistance? Then a larger/wider casing helps, so you'd look at a 1.75" or wider tire. Do you want more grip on gravel and sand? Something with a low-profile tread, like a Bontrager LT3 or WTB All Terrain, will help there (or the Continental RaceKing Supersonic, if cost were no object). If you want grip on snow and ice, the Nokian Mount & Ground studded tire is a safe bet, with a chevron tread and 160 carbide studs (but forget about low weight).

Boiling it down, unless you're going studded, the Bontrager LT3s would be worth a first look. They're available in 1.6" and 2.0" widths. At your weight, I'd lean towards the 2.0" so you can run a lower pressure that gets a bigger "footprint" on gravel.
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Actually, I don't really need extra off road grip. I'm looking for the least rolling resistance that will still shed water and that offers decent flat protection. Here's a link to my bike- http://klassickona.com/oldgold/2006/smoke.htm. I'm not knowledgeable enough to determine what size tires will play nice with my rims, other than the current 26x1.5's.
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Bike tires don't hydroplane because their contact patch is pointy and narrow, so even your City Slickers are ok on that aspect. The thick tread rubber of the City Slicker is also a pretty good deterrent to glass punctures.

I'm familiar with the '06 Kona Smoke, since I worked at a Kona dealer at the time, and the rims are a little wider than I'd want to put a sub-1.5" tire on, so where this is all going is that your City Slickers are actually not bad except for the lack of tread to cope with gravel. If you need increased cruising speed in a place where it's safe to not have your hands at the brake levers, try this: http://midnightcentury.com/supercruise.jpg I typically pick up 1mph+ by channelling airflow around my upper body this way.
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All of my bikes have 26" tires. I have Specialized Nimbus, Specialized FatBoys, and Panaracer RibMo's.

For flat protection I like the RiBMo's. The fastest are probably the Fat Boys. Between the two probably the Nimbus.

I don't know what you mean by shed water? The least spray I get is from the Fat Boys, but they are totally slick. The other tires have some sort of tread, but not much. Remember, these are not car tires, and bikes do not hydroplane.

I'm a clyde also and have hovered at 240 max and never had problems with any of my tires when properly inflated.

I will ride year round, and only a few times have felt like I needed studded tires. For me flat protection is number one. After that would be rolling resistance followed closely by weight. There are a lot of tires available because there are different needs.

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Running Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires myself.. a bit more weight , with their puncture protection layers,

but a flat tire is the maximum rolling resistance , you have to stop and fix it ... ,
so it averages out well, by not puncturing..
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All of my bikes have 26" tires. I have Specialized Nimbus, Specialized FatBoys, and Panaracer RibMo's.

For flat protection I like the RiBMo's. The fastest are probably the Fat Boys. Between the two probably the Nimbus.

I don't know what you mean by shed water? The least spray I get is from the Fat Boys, but they are totally slick. The other tires have some sort of tread, but not much. Remember, these are not car tires, and bikes do not hydroplane.

I'm a clyde also and have hovered at 240 max and never had problems with any of my tires when properly inflated.

I will ride year round, and only a few times have felt like I needed studded tires. For me flat protection is number one. After that would be rolling resistance followed closely by weight. There are a lot of tires available because there are different needs.
Er, the RibMo link points to the Fat Boy info...
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Running Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires myself.. a bit more weight , with their puncture protection layers,

but a flat tire is the maximum rolling resistance , you have to stop and fix it ... ,
so it averages out well, by not puncturing..
+1 on the Schwalbe Marathon for commuting. A great, long lasting tire that rolls nicely and is great against flats. For 700c I like Continental Gatorskins, for 26" its the Schwalbe Marathon.
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Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post
Bike tires don't hydroplane because their contact patch is pointy and narrow, so even your City Slickers are ok on that aspect. The thick tread rubber of the City Slicker is also a pretty good deterrent to glass punctures.

I'm familiar with the '06 Kona Smoke, since I worked at a Kona dealer at the time, and the rims are a little wider than I'd want to put a sub-1.5" tire on, so where this is all going is that your City Slickers are actually not bad except for the lack of tread to cope with gravel. If you need increased cruising speed in a place where it's safe to not have your hands at the brake levers, try this: http://midnightcentury.com/supercruise.jpg I typically pick up 1mph+ by channelling airflow around my upper body this way.
Well, that pretty much deflates the idea of experimenting with some 26x1.25's...
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And those Specialized Nimbus that were linked earlier ran at a higher pressure than what I'm used to. I wonder how the increased psi would affect the 'feel' of the bike...
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I use Schwalbe Marathon on my 700c bike but my 26" commuter came with 1.9" Big Apples. These are really good, efficient rollers and comfortable on rough cobbles. Flat protection is about the same as Marathon.

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It's amazing how efficient a little air pressure is at preventing pinch flats. That might the first issue. Don't underinflate. OTOH, as soon as folks start using terms like rolling resistance it's a beacon for over-inflation, which doesn't help either.

+1 on Schwalbe Marathon (+/- Plus). Perhaps in the 1.6 - 1.9 range given your rims and mass.

And I have learned that tread is over-rated.
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When I was using my MTB for commuting for a few months (road bike was being repainted and rebuilt), I slapped on a pair of cheap, cheap Nashbar slicks.

Those were great tires! Never got a flat, good grip, good ride, and a huge improvement for city riding over regular MTB tires, believe me.
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I ran spec nimbus and they are bombproof tires but the ride isn't very plush. That being said I LOVE my Marathon Supremes, great ride , low rolling resistance and great flat protection. I have only had two flats in 6 months of regular use. The first flat was a small flat piece of metal that would have done in just about any tire. They aren't cheap but they are great tires..Just my opinion.
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Bumping this thread in case there are any new contenders in the field that I'm unaware of.

I was just going to rotate my current tires, but the info gleaned from Sheldon's site made me think twice about that...
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My bike wears Schwalbe Marathon Plus and she likes them very much. I believe they are 1.75". The bike has rolled thru gravel, grass, asphalt, road debris, remains of a squirrel, remains of squished apples, broken glass, broken plastic reflectors and none of it bothers the tire a bit.
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Panaracer T-Serv, 26x1.75 are nice riding. If you're bothered by spray off your tires get fenders.

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If I could figure out exactly how much clearance I had, then that would open up more possibilities. As it stands, I'm just going to concentrate my search on 26x1.5" street/urban tires. Called my LBS today and all they had in stock are Kenda Kwests. The need isn't urgent, so I'll keep looking.
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Schwalbe Big Apples. Comfortable, quick, flat resistant, reflective sidewalls. I don't have anything negative to say about them. I run the 26x2.35 versions on my xtracycle and I'm pretty impressed at the speeds I've achieved/maintained on those big 'ol thangs.
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I was just going to rotate my current tires, but the info gleaned from Sheldon's site made me think twice about that...
I disagree with Sheldon on this one. His point about tire blowout is valid, I suppose, but I find that my rear tire starts getting frequent flats WAY before it's in danger of blowing out. Since front tire punctures are rare, when the rear tire starts getting frequent punctures, I think a rotation is in order.
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I disagree with Sheldon on this one. His point about tire blowout is valid, I suppose, but I find that my rear tire starts getting frequent flats WAY before it's in danger of blowing out. Since front tire punctures are rare, when the rear tire starts getting frequent punctures, I think a rotation is in order.
I am not he expert that Sheldon is, but I have to agree with this take. If you are rotating the rear forward when the rear still has life left I think its fine. Sheldon also makes some commentary about tires are still ok even if they have all kinds of other issues that frighten others which seem to weaken the tires as well. I have rotated some flips in the past and the rear was fine just more worn than the front so I figured I might as well rotate them since I had to fix or replace both tubes anyway. I have ridden plenty of miles on some crappy tires on my bikes. YMMV.
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I run Kenda Kwests, with mr. Tuffy liners. They get chewed up after a few thousand miles, but I like them. And they're cheap :-)
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I run these on my Fenderbeast in 26x1.50 and like them a lot.
Time tested and the price is hard to beat....

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Another tire to possibly add to your list would be the Durano Plus. Same concept as the Marathon Plus (Smartguard puncture protection) but more of a sporty/fast tire. It's available in a 26x1.35. It's load rated @ 90kg/tire (198 lbs.) so you could load your bike down with nearly 400lbs of rider and gear. Tire life would suffer if you consistently rode around loaded down like that, but you could do it.

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