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Old 02-06-11, 03:52 PM
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Light Touring, Commuting, All-Around - Novara Verita?

http://www.rei.com/product/807242

Cross posted in touring forum. Sometimes they are a little to rigid in thinking. Not understanding not everything is about fully-loaded touring. Anyhow, I was looking at the Casseroll, a couple of Raleigh's, etc. and came across the Verita. It is looking pretty sharp. Even has dynamo mounting guides. I'd prefer barcons, a triple or 46/30, and a dynamo hun built in, but with my REI dividend and 20% member coupon next month, this could be a better value over the Casseroll. Especially if I can sell the brifters for a decent amount on ebay.
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Old 02-06-11, 04:13 PM
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Looks nifty for light touring, or commuting, or most anything.

Lucky for you, you could probably sell off the integrated shifters (Can they still be called STI? SRAM Integrated Shifting?) and buy bar end shifters and a dynohub with the money made.

How is the clearance though; I can't tell from the website if it will take 28mm tires and fenders.
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Originally Posted by fuzz2050 View Post

How is the clearance though; I can't tell from the website if it will take 28mm tires and fenders.
That is what I am not sure about. I stopped by REI, they didn't know either. Most stores it seems don't even have it in stock and tehy have little information on it. I would like 35 + fenders, even 38, but not sure if it can do it. The guy at REI did mention a new Randonee for the Spring.
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I thought that 20% off doesn't apply to bicycle? That would be cool if it did (and 10% doesn't kick in if you use 20% I think... it only kicks in when item is less than 15% discounted).
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Old 02-06-11, 06:01 PM
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It comes with 28mm tires and looking at the pictures using the zoom function to check the bridge and fork crown clearance it looks like there might just barely be enough room for fenders.
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Old 02-06-11, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bored117 View Post
I thought that 20% off doesn't apply to bicycle? That would be cool if it did (and 10% doesn't kick in if you use 20% I think... it only kicks in when item is less than 15% discounted).
In the past it could be applied to Novara bikes only, but not any other brands. I also saw 2010 Randonees on clearance for $833. With the Randonee not on their site I can't check to see what it is I didn't like when I looked when it first came out.

The Safari: http://www.rei.com/product/807245 is looking good this year. They moved to steel and got rid of the disc brakes. I also like the new Buzz: http://www.rei.com/product/808781 if I was just looking for a commuting bike.
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Originally Posted by divtag View Post
http://www.rei.com/product/807242
I'd prefer ...a triple .
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I would like 35 + fenders, even 38, but not sure if it can do it.
You don't need those if you're only doing light touring and commuting. You should get the bike - it'll be perfect for you.
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Originally Posted by rogerstg View Post
You don't need those if you're only doing light touring and commuting. You should get the bike - it'll be perfect for you.
+1000
Its an awesome bike for the price.
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Old 02-07-11, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rogerstg View Post
You don't need those if you're only doing light touring and commuting. You should get the bike - it'll be perfect for you.
35mm + tires is overkill for touring, I use 35mm tires on my loaded tourer that sees a good bit of dirt. If I can handle 20 miles of rutted cow tracks carrying (Lightweight) camping gear on 35mms, they are overkill for a credit card tourer like this.
28mm with fenders would be perfect.

I might agree on the gearing though, it's a bit high for my taste, but that can be easily changed. A 46/30 would be pretty sweet.
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Old 02-07-11, 01:59 AM
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34-32 is still pretty low gearing, unless you're climbing mountain grades fully loaded.
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I have 32s on my CrossCheck. I wouldn't want to go any smaller. When I bought it on CL (first real bike before I knew much) it had 23s. I hated those. It also has 52-39 and 12-25, plus a bunch of other stuff I don't like. Built more "roadie" style, that is why I have ben looking for something new for months. Most '10 models I was looking at sold out early.

My Salsa El Mariachi is 1x9 with 32 cog and 11-34. I would like lower on my road bike, but if I can use the 20% coupon next month I am thinking I could always afford a new 46/30 or Sugino triple with savings (assuming they work with the rest of the parts).

Mostly I have been waiting on the Casseroll, but this looks very similar and with REI's customer service as a bonus. If it fits bigger tires and I could sell STIs for bar ends, get Salsa Woddchipper or WTB Dirt Drop bars, and add Dynamo Lighting . . . I would be a happy camper. It is looking like a very good addition to the Novara lineup.
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Old 02-07-11, 09:03 AM
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Minimum 32's, triple, bar ends? You're starting to sound like those "inflexible" folks on the touring forum.
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Originally Posted by divtag View Post
Mostly I have been waiting on the Casseroll, but this looks very similar and with REI's customer service as a bonus. If it fits bigger tires and I could sell STIs for bar ends, get Salsa Woddchipper or WTB Dirt Drop bars, and add Dynamo Lighting . . . I would be a happy camper. It is looking like a very good addition to the Novara lineup.
Those two bars have surprisingly little in common, the WTB is only a hair away from a Nitto Noodle, or a Salsa Bell Lap, it's just a lightly flared wide drop bar. The Woodchipper on the other hand is a purpose built off road drop bar that would be very out of place on this bike, it offers limited hand positions, and is made to be used almost exclusively in the drops.

I have a pair of similar bars on my dirt tourer, and they rock for more technical descents, they give great leverage for climbing out of the saddle, and they look hard core. However, on long road stretches, they get a little cramped; the flats aren't that usable, the hoods are canted at a strange angle, and the drops are too low for long hours in the saddle.
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Old 02-07-11, 05:26 PM
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Thanks, Fuzz. I just saw them on-line on another bike and they looked good. I tried flare drops on a friend's bike and really liked them. Also, the wrists on an angle felt good. Maybe the woodchippers are too much and I'll look at the Midge or Dirt Drops.

rogerstg, nothing inflexible, just what I like to ride. I like wide tires and barcon shifters.
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This might better that deal. http://bikesdirect.com/products/moto...an_turismo.htm

But, you can't do a test ride and won't have the REI discount and service.

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Personally, I would opt for the Salsa Casseroll, hands down. It is a very well designed bike, reasonably lightweight for its function and looks great. I am very tempted to sell one of my steel racing frames and get a Casseroll for a fast commuter. I commute on a Bob Jackson World Tour most of the time but would like another commuter set up lighter and faster.
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I saw the Verita today in person. It's really a nice looking bike.
The medium size has a 20" TT and has a 17" chainstay. Fits me perfect. ' almost bought one, but I already have 2 Trek 520's.
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Get this instead and change the handlebars. It will take the biggest tire and fender combo you can think of and it is cheaper.

http://www.rei.com/product/807245
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Get this instead and change the handlebars. It will take the biggest tire and fender combo you can think of and it is cheaper.

http://www.rei.com/product/807245
I would if it wasn't 26 wheels in my size. I think the Casseroll it is.
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I just bought a Verita yesterday, so I can answer some of your questions. Yes, you can use the 20% coupon; I didn't even have a membership, but when I asked about using the coupon for my girlfriend's membership, the manager said if I got my own membership he'd give me the 20 percent off. Of course he knew that if he didn't, I'd just wait a week and get the discount anyway, but still, it worked out for me. Yes, it can take wider tires and fenders. the tech at the store specifically recommended them when I said I'd be commuting on mine. Plenty of room. I'm sure you could go to 35 if you wanted; it comes with 28s, which work well for me.
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I bought the XL size of Novara Verita. I decided to return it after the first ride because of its wheels. Their rim welding job is so cheap that one may successfully argue the wheels are defective. There is about 0.2mm misalignment at the welding joint which creates a significant edge on the rim's wall. When breaking with >15mph the bike starts to rattle and shake. It feels similar to when your car rotors are due for replacement. I asked at REI whether I can upgrade the wheels and pay the difference only. They could not do this. I am curious whether this was simply a bad batch of wheels that REI used on the current bikes. I will be very happy if the next bike deliveries come equipped with better quality wheels.

Another thing is the heeadset on the bike. It's not the same as the one you see at the pics on the REI site. The one the bike comes with is a cheap bulky substitute. It has a very tall [hideous] seal of the top race, which may be limiting if you like very low stem. Something in mine was making jingling sounds when riding on a bit rougher pavement.

Besides this, the bike is a dream. I love the steel frame, handlebars, the Apex componentry. It felt very, very light and responsive for a commuter bike.

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