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truman 03-10-11 10:18 AM

Conversation this morning:
 
Lexus driver shouting thru passenger window: You didn't stop at that last stop sign.
Me: You didn't either.
LD: Yeah, I did!
Me: Nope, I watched. You slowed, but never stopped. I chose not to pretend-stop, is all. (Stop light turns green)
LD (pulling away): You need to get off the street!!
Me: So does your mom. (I know he heard me because he slammed on his brakes, nearly stopped, and then drove off, while giving me the finger.)

Fizzaly 03-10-11 10:21 AM

I love it when that happens because we don't have to stop at stop signs on bikes in Boise.

canyoneagle 03-10-11 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by truman (Post 12340713)
You need to get off the street!!

"....and you need to read Title 41 of the Utah Code...." would be my response where I live.

bcbb_ben 03-10-11 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by truman (Post 12340713)
LD (pulling away): You need to get off the street!!
Me: So does your mom. (I know he heard me because he slammed on his brakes, nearly stopped, and then drove off, while giving me the finger.)

Total burnination! You are the insult MASTA!!!

Seriously, nice quip.

truman 03-10-11 11:22 AM

It's a gift I'm a little embarrassed to possess.

colleen c 03-10-11 11:32 AM

Waive.
Smile.
And a "Thank You"

bhop 03-10-11 11:58 AM

I would've just ignored him.

pallen 03-10-11 12:23 PM

I don't get the mentality that a bike needs to get off the street if they roll through a red light where there are no cars in sight. What about the guy in the car I saw yesterday plow through the intersection after the light turned red barely missing another car. People may call them a jerk and get annoyed, but no one seems to think they should "get off the road".

Its hard to resist, but it really is better to just ignore the jerks. That made me laugh though :lol:

cellery 03-10-11 12:28 PM

Mad props truman.

Aloe 03-10-11 12:40 PM

That's a quality insult.

I really enjoy it when cars give me grief about not stopping at stop signs because I can't remember the last car I saw that actually stopped at a stop sign.

candafilm 03-10-11 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Fizzaly (Post 12340739)
I love it when that happens because we don't have to stop at stop signs on bikes in Boise.

I actually didn't know that. That's good to know even though I don't really hit many stop signs on my commute.

Fizzaly 03-10-11 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by candafilm (Post 12341538)
I actually didn't know that. That's good to know even though I don't really hit many stop signs on my commute.

Yup we only have to yield at stop signs and at light we can stop then proceed

truman 03-10-11 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Aloe (Post 12341513)
That's a quality insult.

I really enjoy it when cars give me grief about not stopping at stop signs because I can't remember the last car I saw that actually stopped at a stop sign.

Yeah, I watch cars at signs because I've been given grief by them. Now, if I'm at the same intersection as a car, I won't roll it, until they do it first. That's what happened here.

MNBikeguy 03-10-11 01:26 PM

Quality insults aside, I would have simply asked him, "and how does this affect your day?"
It's one thing to assert your space on the road. It's entirely another when you have some nanny driver call you out for a stop sign.

paul2432 03-10-11 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by candafilm (Post 12341538)
I actually didn't know that. That's good to know even though I don't really hit many stop signs on my commute.


Just to clarify, the law does require you to yield and stop as necessary.

Paul

corkscrew 03-10-11 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by candafilm (Post 12341538)
I actually didn't know that. That's good to know even though I don't really hit many stop signs on my commute.

Yep - Google "Idaho Stop Law".

Here is an excerpt from the Idaho Bicycling Laws:


49-720. STOPPING — TURN AND STOP SIGNALS.
(1) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a stop sign shall slow down and, if required for safety, stop before entering the intersection. After slowing to a reasonable speed or stopping, the person shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another highway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the person is moving across or within the intersection or junction of highways, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a turn or proceed through the intersection without stopping.
(2) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a steady red traffic control light shall stop before entering the intersection and shall yield to all other traffic. Once the person has yielded, he may proceed through the steady red light with caution. Provided however, that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a right-hand turn. A left-hand turn onto a one-way highway may be made on a red light after stopping and yielding to other traffic.
(3) A person riding a bicycle shall comply with the provisions of section 49-643, Idaho Code.
(4) A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given during not less than the last one hundred (100) feet traveled
Taken from here: http://itd.idaho.gov/bike_ped/Idaho%...Bicyclists.pdf

exile 03-10-11 02:41 PM

While I think the comeback is funny truman, I do think you should have just ignored him or at least not insult his mother. Unfortunately you may encounter this motorist again and the situation could escalate quickly. The motorist can ram you from behind and use the excuse "I didn't see him" to escape any charges. Although i am not familiar with Texas, I know some place ain't so friendly to cyclist.

daven1986 03-10-11 03:05 PM

My conversation with a driver today:

Me: *rides past*
Driver: *winds down window* w*****

.....I still don't know what I was suppose to have done. Needless to say I enjoyed going round him while he was stuck in traffic!

canyoneagle 03-10-11 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by daven1986 (Post 12342302)
My conversation with a driver today:

Me: *rides past*
Driver: *winds down window* w*****

.....I still don't know what I was suppose to have done. Needless to say I enjoyed going round him while he was stuck in traffic!

Classic!

I try to wipe the smug grin off of my face as I see the same group of cars at every light along a major avenue on my route home. The light turns green, they race off, and I once again roll up to the next light as they sit.
However, it is truly hard to beat what you describe - passing cars stuck in gridlock. That just feels great!!!!!

daven1986 03-10-11 03:55 PM

There was an advert in the UK for garmin or some other GPS system which said "You aren't stuck in traffic....you ARE traffic", brilliant slogan although I thought it was much better suited to a bicycle advert.

Seattle Forrest 03-10-11 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by MNBikeguy (Post 12341755)
Quality insults aside, I would have simply asked him, "and how does this affect your day?"

If I were truman, I'd be pleased with my creativity for the rest of the day...

DX-MAN 03-10-11 06:24 PM

TRUman...duuu-uudde..........yoooouu are a MAA-ADMAN! I wanna ride with you, cowboy......

Don't let the 'nice guys' tell you you overreacted; the figurative display of steel gonads will just as likely make the driver cower next time, rather than escalate the situation.

You sound like me on the road......

CB HI 03-10-11 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by bhop (Post 12341244)
I would've just ignored him.

And miss all that fun.
I am still LOL.
I am also surprised that the JAM got the punch line so quickly.

CB HI 03-10-11 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by DX-MAN (Post 12343136)
TRUman...duuu-uudde..........yoooouu are a MAA-ADMAN! I wanna ride with you, cowboy......

Don't let the 'nice guys' tell you you overreacted; the figurative display of steel gonads will just as likely make the driver cower next time, rather than escalate the situation.

You sound like me on the road......

And in all seriousness, have any of us that talk back to the JAMs ever had even one come back some other day to ram us from behind?

NO, as noted, they are bully cowards.

To the worry warts, worry more about the clueless texters, they are the ones that will ram you from behind.

o0adam0o 03-10-11 11:41 PM

Oh snap! lol

I was yelled at for the first time ever a few month ago while commuting. Lady drove by and yelled "use the sidewalk!" ... i didnt even try to respond since she drove by me pretty fast.


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