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chipcom 03-21-11 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by RichardGlover (Post 12389945)
When riding through bad neighborhoods, I don't do anything differently other than make an effort to pay attention to my surroundings.

95% of conflicts can be avoided by good situational awareness, listening to 'bad feelings' your gut may be telling you, and avoiding the situation entirely (e.g. avoiding large groups, as mentioned by somebody else).

Most of the remainder can mostly be handled by keeping your cool, making it clear you're not a threat, and an absolute dedication to swallowing your pride.

For the few situations that can't be handled any other way, I carry a (legally) concealed handgun & pepper spray (which is not to say that I think I 'only' need them in 'bad' neighborhoods - bad things can happen anywhere).

You might want to avoid carrying on a bike in northern Ohio for a spell.
http://www.sanduskyregister.com/sand...oting-sandusky

himespau 03-21-11 12:28 PM

wow, that doesn't sound like a good situation. I wonder why he was pulling the guy over when dispatch didn't appear to have anything on him (not saying he was in the wrong, could have been riding as if drunk or something). Just not a lot of info there.

chipcom 03-21-11 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by himespau (Post 12390413)
wow, that doesn't sound like a good situation. I wonder why he was pulling the guy over when dispatch didn't appear to have anything on him (not saying he was in the wrong, could have been riding as if drunk or something). Just not a lot of info there.

I have many of the same questions, but it's not the best time to be asking them. Apparently, the guy on the bike was a "known troublemaker with a long rap sheet", was out barhopping and it was like 3am when the cop pulled him over. None of those answers the key question tho.

The area MS150 overnights in Sandusky and there have often been run-ins between the cops and cyclists riding in the dark to the start point of the return trip...this year could be interesting.

sci_femme 03-21-11 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 12389235)
I gotta say that I've been in more potentially threatening situations that involved snooty white folk than with poor folk who live/hang in the hood over the years.

Amen!

sci_femme 03-21-11 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 12389291)
and the soccer moms yaking on their phones in mini-vans and SUVs

Amen again!

RichardGlover 03-21-11 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by chipcom (Post 12390235)
You might want to avoid carrying on a bike in northern Ohio for a spell.
http://www.sanduskyregister.com/sand...oting-sandusky

Not that I'm headed to OH anytime soon, but I find that police don't give me any grief at all for (legally) concealed carrying. Of course, I'm also smart enough to inform them of it, let them know where it is, and keep my hands well away from it when interacting with them.

A real tragedy. I'd be interested in finding out what the initial stop was for, and how it plays out in court.

mustachiod 03-21-11 02:28 PM

be alert
no eye contact
try to avoid the instinct to educate drivers and pedestrians about bicycle rights
keep moving
no fancy riding clothes/gear (anything that looks expensive)

any comments, things thrown at you, ... just shake it off and keep going. they are looking for a reaction, don't give them one

chicago has cameras mounted to telephone poles in some neighborhoods. i know where they are if i need to get to one

fmileto55 03-21-11 02:52 PM

Be visible, make eye contact, be friendly and courteous. Exude confidence! Don't linger though...

colleen c 03-21-11 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by BarracksSi (Post 12384789)
I think my butt is the smallest part of my body.. :D

My cousin is like that. He blames his doctor for prescribing him Noasatol pill :)


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