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Old 03-28-11, 07:25 PM
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NYC riders beware...******* cop at 120st and bway...

Hit me with running a red light after I stopped and looked both ways to insure that all was clear. I did not see him as he was in an unmarked car and he pulled me over down the road a bit. No warning, no conversation....270.00...have a nice day!!!!
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Old 03-28-11, 07:30 PM
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I guess one way to prevent that is to not run red lights. This happened to me during my first ever season of commuting and I haven't run a red light since.
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red light stop all the time
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Just making sure I'm understanding this....

Stopping for a red, looking both ways, THEN GOING, isn't running a red?

Damn, NYC, what a wonderful town.

Oh wait...................
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I can't believe I got arrested the other day for breaking the law!



I better warn people on the internet that breaking the law is illegal!
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If you are too light to trigger a light in KY you can cautiously go on red on a bike or motorcycle. That is after amlpe time has passed.
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Originally Posted by gunner65
If you are too light to trigger a light in KY you can cautiously go on red on a bike or motorcycle. That is after amlpe time has passed.
'cept weight don't matter when trying to trigger lights. A 4 ton rock is not going to trigger your standard dipole loop.
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I see that most folks that replied aren't in the area.
The reason the OP is shocked is this, yes we all know
that running a red light on a bike is illegal. It's just
that here in NYC it's an accepted way of life. Like
many illegal things. And there are so much worse
offenses that NYPD should be concentrating on, 120th
st and vicinity is a hot spot for a lot of drug buys.

Count how many people are crossing against the red
light and jaywalking in this video, none of them got a
ticket:


See how many police officers ILLEGALLY park their private
vehicles(ON SIDEWALKS) and block hydrants while not getting ticketed:

https://nyc.uncivilservants.org/agency/103

Sidewalk?

East 21st and 3rd Avenue, Manhattan. Observed by lawandorder on Tue, Nov 09 2010
Permit: NYPD Restricted (Self-Enforcement Zone)
Agency: NYPD
Violation: Parked on Sidewalk
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or sidepark?
more half-witted perps at the 13th precinct



108th precinct placard perp

50th Avenue and Vernon Blvd, Queens. Observed by lawandorder on Thu, Jun 17 2010
Permit: NYPD Restricted (Self-Enforcement Zone)
Agency: NYPD
Violation: Parked at Fire Hydrant
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Like anybody, the authorities like to go after the low hanging fruit. I.e. the most revenue, citations, other measurable outcome they can get with the resources at hand, with the least risk of losng any fur, personally or institutionally. I guess in NYC, cyclists crossing against a red light fall into the category of low hanging fruit. Don't feel too oppressed, there are many other behaviours that fall into that category.
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Originally Posted by old's'cool
Like anybody, the authorities like to go after the low hanging fruit.
You mean like scrotums? That's horrible!
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Look for a clause in the motor vehicle hand book allowing a motorist to stop at a red light, then proceed when it is safe in the case of a malfunctioning light. The logic is that the light is not "working properly" for a bike. Therefore, you treat it like a stop sign. Go to court with this defense and you should win. Most likely, the cop will not show. That's what happened to the idiot that gave me a $450 ticket for the same infraction.

Only exception would be at an intersection where you have access to a bicycle crossing button.

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Old 03-29-11, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gunner65
If you are too light to trigger a light in KY you can cautiously go on red on a bike or motorcycle. That is after amlpe time has passed.
Ditto in Louisville, KY. I usually do it on quiet, unpopulated streets tho. On most roads even there is rarely no car for more than 5 minutes
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Get off bike, jaywalk with everyone else. Get back on bike.
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Originally Posted by pennstater
Get off bike, jaywalk with everyone else. Get back on bike.
When I complained to NCDOT about a defective signal that wouldn't detect bikes, this is what the engineer writing back told me to do. (There was no pedestrian button to push or ped signal anyway; none of the pedestrians wait for green).
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Originally Posted by 1nterceptor
"Other people break other laws I like, so it's OK for me to break the laws I don't like."
I edited your post to make it more succinct.
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OP: Don't let your pride get in the way of what it right and wrong. If you don't know this yet, you broke the law. Plain and Simple. Going on a red is illegal even if you look both ways to insure that it is clear. Now pay your fine and follow the rules of the road next time, it could save your life!!!

I got stopped the same way and I received an earful of reasons why I shouldn't run reds on a bicycle by a cop. He gave me a ticket, but I think he didn't submit it on his end making it null and void. I think he just wanted to teach me a lesson.

I was the same sorta cyclist like you back in the day thinking that bicycles are above traffic laws. This isn't so. Saving 30 secs is not worth risking your life even if it is clear, you never know...there could be a car speeding trying to beat a yellow that could wipe you out. Red lights are there for a reason.

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You got caught running a red light so either pay your ticket or fight it in court.

Also, I think we can all agree 1interceptor that we do not like selective enforcement of laws.
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Selective enforcement sucks. But it seems that is the only way that traffic laws get enforced. To soften the blow divide the number of red lights you've run by the dollar amount of the fine. Then you can see whether you got your money's worth.
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I gotta dig out the video I took the other day of a cyclist (not me) sitting at a light for 5 minutes waiting for it to turn green. He eventually walked his bike across the street. Clearly, by the same logic, a person should have to walk their car, truck or SUV across a light too when it doesn't recognize them as a part of the traffic pattern.
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Couple of month ago, the police did a crackdown in Berkeley specifically on bicycle red light runner. They tagged a lots if rider. It's a norm in Berkeley and kinda nice because many cars are so used to it that they expect it and yield most of the time. As I recall, the ticket was over $200. Just be glad it is not Signapore where they will probably try to give you a hanging sentence and settle for "only several month of jail time".
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LOL, OP, your post here will school you in the ways of BF commuters. These guys stop at stop signs in the middle of nowhere when no one is looking, just to prove a point....
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^winner^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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lol, op, your post here will school you in the ways of bf commuters. These guys stop at stop signs in the middle of nowhere when no one is looking, just to prove a point....
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Originally Posted by Mr IGH
LOL, OP, your post here will school you in the ways of BF commuters. These guys stop at stop signs in the middle of nowhere when no one is looking, just to prove a point....
Doesn't seem to have stopped you from being a regular here; be sure to include yourself in that little slam.

And, FTR, this thread was about red lights, not stop signs. I can't remember the last time I stopped at a stop sign -- o wait, yes I can; it was yesterday, when a car was coming.
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that blows man! you should see the riders here in Boston. I'm in the burbs but when I ride into the city I'm at the light while everyone else blows the lights without helmets. enforcing some law is one thing but $270. come on gimme a break, that's outrageous! instead they should make you watch some kinda safety video.

up here in order to get a 4X off-road beach permit you gotta watch a video showing the do's and dont's including shots of dudes who got washed out to sea wheels up! they should make you watch police videos scraping bikers off the undersides of trucks and buses, and maybe a small fine like $50. $270. is crazy man.

thanks for sharing though cuz that is the point of making an example out of you. thank you very much, but you should fight the ticket maybe the cop won't show. postpone your date 6 mos and the cop will be sure to forget it or even be in a different precinct by then.

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Originally Posted by 1nterceptor
I see that most folks that replied aren't in the area.
The reason the OP is shocked is this, yes we all know
that running a red light on a bike is illegal. It's just
that here in NYC it's an accepted way of life. Like
many illegal things. And there are so much worse
offenses that NYPD should be concentrating on, 120th
st and vicinity is a hot spot for a lot of drug buys.

Count how many people are crossing against the red
light and jaywalking in this video, none of them got a
ticket:
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Yes, a lot of people, including cops, break traffic laws and many infractions are worse than the OP's, but that in no way justifies the OP's action. That leads to anarchy. I know big cities like NYC are a pain to get around, but there is some sort of organized chaos, yes a lot of room for improvement, but not nearly as bad a places that completely disregard traffic laws. Try walking in some places in Europe or the middle east or Mexico. I've done that and I've walked in NYC, the other places are far worse, we don't want to go there.
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