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Old 04-10-11, 10:43 AM
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MTB commuter.. thinking of changing bars, Butterfly, Moustache, Bar Ends?

So I'm commuting on my MTB and I don't like the bars,

I like the looks of Moustache bars but it look like I'll need to change levers, and shifters, so that may be out....

Butterly's look nice too, but bar ends are the simplest....

Your advice would be appreciated, as I'd like to avoid having a box full of unused parts in the next few months...

Here's what I'm working with....

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Old 04-10-11, 11:00 AM
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I like butterfly bars personally. I think they give you the most possible hand positions outside of drop bars. They are fairly inexpensive too.

However, the downside is that you might need a longer stem if you go with them.
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I get some Ergon grips, then try bar ends- both can be used on a Nashbar trekking bar if you end up going that route.
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Old 04-10-11, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
I get some Ergon grips, then try bar ends- both can be used on a Nashbar trekking bar if you end up going that route.
How can you use Ergon grips on the Nashbar trekking bar? I'm curious, because my bike has the Nashbar bar, and the brake/shifters are on the inside of the grips.

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Ah, I see, you have to get the grips without the integrated barends... hmm. I might have to pick up some of those!

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As much as I like moustache bars, I've had nothing but bad luck putting them on bikes designed for flat handlebars. The moustache bars have much more reach than even most drop bars, and putting that on a bike with an already long top tube is a recipe for poor fit.

If I were in your position, I would try a trekking bar, or butterfly, bar. It would be an easy transition, you just need to move the controls over and adjust the stem for fit.

Or, you could also just try a flat bar with more sweep. I've never really been comfortable without at least 30 or 40 degrees of sweep.
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Old 04-10-11, 04:31 PM
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What are you looking to change? What don't you currently like?

As fuzz2050 said, maybe just bars with more sweep? Or rise? Or drop?
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You really haven`t stated a reason to change. Whats the issue with what you have? Those pretty much look like flat bars to me and I use those on a hybrid and a mtb/city bike with Ergon GC3 bar ends. Have tried a variety of other bar styles and thats what I ended up with. I did cut 1 1/2 inches off each end to get a narrower bar though.
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Old 04-10-11, 05:34 PM
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I'm perfectly happy with bar ends on my flat bars. I did 25 miles yesterday with these babies. Relatively inexpensive, and long enough for a full hand grip. And if you don't have locking grips, the bar ends keep your grips from sliding off.

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Old 04-10-11, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by waynesworld View Post
What are you looking to change? What don't you currently like?

As fuzz2050 said, maybe just bars with more sweep? Or rise? Or drop?

I'm not completely sure what I don't like. I'm used to drop bars on road bikes, this is my first flat bar bike.

For sure I'm putting too much pressure on my hands. The bars are equal in height to my saddle, where my road bikes are lower than seat height. But I don't feel pressure....
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If you're used to road bikes, then why opt for an mtb as your commuter? You can commute on drop bars (wait, did I just say that?!?). Since you're used to drops, convert your rig to them...
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Try lowering the bars to the same relative position as your drop bar hand position.
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Looking at your bars, the barends may be mounted in a strange angle, depending on which barends you're able to get your hands on.

What I personally like best are butterfly bars. They give you some more hand positions compared to flatbars with barends and leave you with more space for lighting, computery, bells and whatever you would want on the bars.
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Old 04-11-11, 03:21 AM
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I love trekking / butterfly bars and for $20.00 they are a pretty low cost investment so if you don't like them you won't be out much and also like drop bars and it just depends on the bike's purpose.

Only have riser bars on my XC racing bike and they work fine for this... my other XC mountain bike has drop bars which is nice since it sees a lot of road time as well as time on the single track and trails.

I have converted quite a few mountain bikes to serve as commuters and touring bikes and drops and road levers either warrant cantis linear pull levers for V brakes, or travel adjusters, as well as suitable shifters.


Drop bars with 8 speed bar ends and cross levers.


Trekking bars.
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Old 04-11-11, 03:23 AM
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I see that your bike already runs cantis so a drop bar conversion would only require bar end shifters to handle the shifting duties. Friction bar ends can often be found for $20-$30 and a nice set of drop bars and levers should not set you back that much... if you have a good bike co-op this can often save you a lot of money.
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I have both mustache and trekking bars (Bridgestone XO-2 and my mountain bike conversion) and from multiple years of use with each, the trekking bars give more and perhaps better hand position options. The only point that the trekking bars lose on is looks.
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Originally Posted by sonatageek View Post
I have both mustache and trekking bars (Bridgestone XO-2 and my mountain bike conversion) and from multiple years of use with each, the trekking bars give more and perhaps better hand position options. The only point that the trekking bars lose on is looks.
We are bicycle commuters and as such are already social outcasts who are seen by many as being subversives trying to undermine the automobile hegemony...

Trekking bars can't make our image any worse and I find that a lot of people are interested in them and have done many refits for folks who don't like their flat bars.
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Old 04-11-11, 09:03 AM
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+1 for trekking bars. I swapped out my hybrid's semi-flat bar for trekking bars and they're great. A lot more hand positions and no more numb hands.
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I just put moustache bars on my MTB/commuter and I love them. I had brakes from a trash can bike I found though, and put new cables and bar end shifters on as well.
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You might consider something like this : http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...5&category=708
Ergon .. combining bar-end and comfort grip in an integrated set.
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I found trekking bars on nashbar, who else makes em?

I also have a set of drops laying around but no bar end shifters, or canti levers. Found inexpensive Dia-comps for both of those.
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There are other makers of trekking bars, But you have to buy them
from a European source .
or a specialist retailer.
I got 2 different ITM bars from Wallingford in N.O. , but they sold out..
now Kalloy is all they sell..
Nashbar is probably the same as Kalloy, re branded.

Modolo Dumbo which is very adjustable bar, can be purchased
and shipped from UK, European retailers.
http://www.modolo.com/dumbo.html

or they make this bend, http://www.modolo.com/yuma.html

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Velo-orange sells one, too:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.p...2-dia-sil.html
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I say try some bar ends to see how you like them. They come in a lot of different lengths and bends and you don't have to do much to the way your handlebars are already set up. I have some Ergon GR2's on my hardtail and I like them.

If you don't want to go that way, then the butterfly bars have really caught my eye. The ones Fietsbob has linked look very interesting.
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I think the next time I place an order from Nashbar I may get a set of butterfly bars, until then I'll make due with my latest Ebay win...

not bad for $9.50 total...

I guess I need to trim up my grips.... I think I put em on right....



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They look to be angled a little high, but hey... whatever's comfortable!

I have a set of Ergon GP3 grips that are very comfortable (and expensive):



After the ride that preceded the above picture, I found that the bike handled very poorly in the snow. I wondered if a narrower grip and a more upright seating position would improve handling, so I cannibalized my Schwinn for it's trekking bars, bought a new stem to fit them, scrounged up my OE grips, and voilą:



I found the bike much easier to control with my hands on the grips while traversing slippery sections, and I could move outboard to take advantage of other hand positions when the road was clear. I liked them so much that I bought a set of bar-endless Ergon GP1 grips to replace the OE set on my Norco:



After riding with them all winter I am now a trekking bar convert. I even bought another set to put back on the Schwinn which now serves duty as the family hauler. I decided to forgo grips altogether on this bike and instead just rely on bar tape:


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