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Originally Posted by prathmann
(Post 12531800)
I think one of the reasons for that is that they're perceived to back each other up even if one of them has made a mistake. There were quite a few cops at the scene in the video. If the 'heat of the moment' got to one of them then one of the others could have pulled him aside and calmed him down. But none of them did that and the situation escalated.
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Originally Posted by stdlrf11
(Post 12514680)
How do you identify yourself without producing ID? I guess they could run your name, DOB, DL# and/or SSN through the computer to verify, but if not you could say you're anybody.
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i have seen this a bunch, it is not as much of an abuse of power as people make it seem, cops did not go after dude UNTIL he had stood there and yelled at the for a while.
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"I have never seen a situation so dismal that a policeman couldn't make it worse."
---Brendan Behan |
Last time I checked, being obnoxious isn't illegal. So how is it not an abuse of power when the police detain you when you haven't broken the law? You'll notice that nowhere in the video do the police tell the gentleman why he is being detained.
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amen, bluefoxicy. in the words of joe strummer, 'know your rights!'
http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform-...what-do-if-you |
I agree with this statement. By interrupting the officer and cyclist, he lined himself up for obstruction of justice. Once the officer has that on him, his not showing ID is disobeying a lawful request from an officer. If, however, the officer's request was illegal on some grounds then he'd have the right to not show his ID.
Seriously people, learn how the system works so you can avoid being run over by it.
Originally Posted by stdlrf11
(Post 12514544)
That is incorrect.
In any state, you must show ID to any officer that requests it. Failure to do so is a crime. I've seen several people get arrested for failure to show ID. The bottom line is if you act like an ass, like this guy did, you are going to get some negative attention. He should have minded his own business and not continually interrupted the officer/cyclist conversation. |
How is it illegal to not show ID when there's no legal requirement to HAVE an ID?
I think it's illegal for you to not identify yourself, but that's not the same thing as producing an ID document. Also the officer can detain you until he can verify your identity if he has some reason why he needs to know who you are (even if it's just "something happened in the area and we want to know who was around at the time). |
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