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waynesworld 04-29-11 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by JAG410 (Post 12570286)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Portland-Design-...#ht_863wt_1141

That's where I got my Radbot 1000 from. The batteries were basically dead out of the box, but rechargeables are highly recommended for this light anyways. It's cheap and arrived quick, it's worth a shot. My 2 PBSF lights will get helmet mounted now.

Thanks! I just ordered one.

ObjectAgnosia 04-29-11 08:32 AM

Both the Radbot 1000 and Superflash Turbo

pallen 04-29-11 08:41 AM

I have switched from the Radbot to the Dangerzone - batteries dont last quite as long, but its brighter.
http://www.ridepdw.com/goods/lights/...-zone%E2%84%A2

bhchdh 04-29-11 04:40 PM

PDW Radbot 1000. (I believe there is a PB SuperFlash Turbo that has a 1 watt led, but it may not have a reflector.)

Mardmakarm 04-29-11 07:09 PM

Big Eyes is what i use for months, super bright with 2 watt led but using only 2 AAA batteries.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_L...ar%20light.JPG

I have to recharge batteries only few times since i bought it.

PaulRivers 04-29-11 11:28 PM

I rather like the Planet Bike Rack Blinky.
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-30...4139670&sr=8-1

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA300_.jpg

Personally, I like that it's not blindingly bright - I own a Dinotte 140L and it's to bright for someone to ride behind me (I say that from experience, I got complaints).

I also, personally, like that it doesn't have a weird flashing pattern, it's just a standard on/on/off/on/on/off about.


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
Here's what I want in a tail light:

1. Built in reflectivity. This seems like an obvious element that a surprising number of lights don't have.

Yes.


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
2. Bright, but doesn't need to be so bright it blinds airplanes.

Yes. Unlike my Dinotte 140L.


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
3. At least 180 degrees of visibility. I want to be seen from the side too.

When the light turns on, it lights up the entire red reflector-looking area, including to the sides - I just checked it out in the garage on mine. Of course it's thinner from 180 degrees and it doesn't have a specific light pointing to the side, I can see see the side glowing from 180 degrees in my garage.


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
4. A mounting bracket that screws down with a clamp. Elastic band straps always break or slide down on me.

Yes.

Actually, I have mine attached to the rack mount, which is glued on the back of my waterproof trunk bag. But - the rack mount has the screw holes, and judging from the pictures on amazon the seatpost mount attaches with a screw to. :-D


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
5. $20 - $40 price range

$15. :-D


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
I started researching but found it annoying how hard it is to get all these elements in a light. Anybody have a light with all/most of these features that they'd recommend? The Cateye Reflex LD560 seems good...anybody use that light?

Actually, I think it meets all of your criteria, only maybe there might be a light out there that has a specific side-facing led...

MilitantPotato 04-29-11 11:38 PM

Radbot 1000.

sygyzy 04-30-11 12:05 AM

Why all the love for the Radbot 1000? It is just because it has a reflector? What does it have over the PB Superflash?

adxdopefish 04-30-11 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by sygyzy (Post 12575343)
Why all the love for the Radbot 1000? It is just because it has a reflector? What does it have over the PB Superflash?

It seems as though some states in the US require a pushbike to be fitted with a reflector, regardless of lights being fitted. I suppose the Radbot doing both jobs while only having to find one mount location is of benefit.

dwellman 04-30-11 06:35 AM

So, in summary, if you didn't need a reflector, Superf lash?

ObjectAgnosia 04-30-11 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by sygyzy (Post 12575343)
Why all the love for the Radbot 1000? It is just because it has a reflector? What does it have over the PB Superflash?

I own both and slightly prefer the Radbot over the Superflash Turbo because of its reflector and its slow pulsing flash pattern. But with that said I like running both at the same time. I'm thinking about running a third, the original Super flash, on steady mode.

dwellman 04-30-11 06:59 AM

Hell. . . maybe just tow a bunch of these around:

http://www.traderscity.com/board/use...4-5-wire-1.jpg

irclean 04-30-11 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by sygyzy (Post 12575343)
Why all the love for the Radbot 1000? It is just because it has a reflector? What does it have over the PB Superflash?

Superflash on the left, Radbot 1000 on the right:


I have both, Radbot on the rack, and Superflash on the seatpost, or pannier if trunk bag is also being used. It's good to have both since one acts as a backup in case the other one fails.

banerjek 04-30-11 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
1. Built in reflectivity. This seems like an obvious element that a surprising number of lights don't have.

Why require it on the light when it can be done better elsewhere? I prefer to let the light do its job, and the reflective gear do its job.

somedood 04-30-11 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by sygyzy (Post 12575343)
Why all the love for the Radbot 1000? It is just because it has a reflector? What does it have over the PB Superflash?

The Radbot 1000 is twice the wattage of the superflash. Still not the level of brightness of the dinoette 140, but I haven't seen any taillights that use conventional batteries above 1W.

AlmostTrick 04-30-11 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 12575858)
Why require it on the light when it can be done better elsewhere? I prefer to let the light do its job, and the reflective gear do its job.

Exactly. Standard rear reflectors (that come on all bikes) are larger and more effective than the tiny one in the Radbot.

Even worse, when car lights do reflect off the reflector on a blinky, the flash mode effectively disappears, as the light will then appear full "on". Not so with a reflector and blinky mounted several inches apart.

AlmostTrick 04-30-11 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by somedood (Post 12575908)
The Radbot 1000 is twice the wattage of the superflash. Still not the level of brightness of the dinoette 140, but I haven't seen any taillights that use conventional batteries above 1W.

But the Superflash Turbo is also 1 watt, just as the Radbot is. It also has a more random "emergency" type flash pattern to it.

no1mad 04-30-11 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by sygyzy (Post 12575343)
Why all the love for the Radbot 1000? It is just because it has a reflector? What does it have over the PB Superflash?

I think that maybe it has something to do with the earlier design of the PBSF*. Lot's of people were complaining how they were losing their lights- the covers would pop off while in motion. The PDW lights use a screw, eliminating that problem.

*Have no direct experience with any of these lights. Just info gleaned from the interwebz...

ItsJustMe 04-30-11 09:02 AM

The best tail light is MULTIPLE tail lights. Any light can fail. Any light can fall off or break a bracket. IMO you MUST have two, at least.

And I wouldn't limit myself by thinking that the light HAD to have a built-in reflector. I'd just mount a separate reflector, then I'd be able to pick the best of breed of actual lights.

exile 04-30-11 12:46 PM

I like the PB Rack Blinky 5 myself. Not blinding, no fancy flash patterns, however effective at a steady blink. But as stated before, multiple active and passive lighting is probably the best.

PaulRivers 04-30-11 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by banerjek (Post 12575858)
Why require it on the light when it can be done better elsewhere? I prefer to let the light do its job, and the reflective gear do its job.

I require one on mine as well - I use 2 rear lights because the d!@#@! things don't give you any warning before the battery dies and I've gotten home to find out one of them turned off because it ran out of battery. There's simply a limited amount of space on the back of my bike for lights, and I don't have room for 2 lights plus an additional reflect on any of my bikes.

ItsJustMe 04-30-11 02:34 PM

RE batteries dying: if you're waiting for them to die, you're waiting far too long. In my experience they get dim way before they die.

The right answer is to use rechargable batteries and recharge them once a month or so. Ideally use low-self-discharge NiMH cells. By charging them when they're not dead yet you'll not only make them last longer but your lights will be brighter.

PaulRivers 04-30-11 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 12576859)
RE batteries dying: if you're waiting for them to die, you're waiting far too long. In my experience they get dim way before they die.

Mine don't...I think they use "regulated" power or something...makes them consistently bright regardless of charge, but when they die that's it.

I just had it happen this week - the light seemed normally bright when I turned it on, 30 minutes later I noticed it was completely dead, wouldn't turn back on, with new batteries it worked again. :-(


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 12576859)
The right answer is to use rechargable batteries and recharge them once a month or so. Ideally use low-self-discharge NiMH cells. By charging them when they're not dead yet you'll not only make them last longer but your lights will be brighter.

Yeah, that's what I've been using. My plan had been to recharge them all in the spring and fall, but then I wouldn't get around to it. Kinda my own fault, lol...but I still find it very annoying. Wish it had some sort of low battery indicator.

EDIT: You know...actually, this last time I think what I wrote above might be wrong...I think this last time it turned out one of the batteries had been knocked out of connection somehow...hmm. My last one didn't seem unusually dim, but I'll try to keep an eye out in the future, it seemed like they didn't get dim but I'm not 100% sure now...

10 Wheels 04-30-11 03:09 PM

Carry some back ups.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/18lights.jpg

no1mad 04-30-11 04:24 PM

Other than the rack mount...
 
How would you mount a light to the rack? I've toyed with the idea of mounting a light to the seat stay, but the rack strut would partially block it, and the rack stays are too narrow to mount a light to. Or am I missing something?

dwellman 04-30-11 04:27 PM

Hair ties and q-tips.

colleen c 04-30-11 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 12576859)
RE batteries dying: if you're waiting for them to die, you're waiting far too long. In my experience they get dim way before they die.

The right answer is to use rechargable batteries and recharge them once a month or so. Ideally use low-self-discharge NiMH cells. By charging them when they're not dead yet you'll not only make them last longer but your lights will be brighter.

I use alkaline only because I get them free at work. On my PBSF 1/2 watt model, they do get dim enough that I can change the battery before they go dead. However, on my PDW1000, they are fine even to the point where I turn them off. Then the next day when I turn them back on, they are super dim. I get get no warning with the PDW. Good thing those have bult in reflector on them.

I have yet to try the PBSF or the PDW1000 with rechargable.

ObjectAgnosia 04-30-11 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 12576954)

Is that your bike? With that many lights, you're better off buying one dinotte and saving some money.

10 Wheels 04-30-11 05:15 PM

Not mine.

Nightshade 04-30-11 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by goatalope (Post 12568943)
Here's what I want in a tail light:

1. Built in reflectivity. This seems like an obvious element that a surprising number of lights don't have.
2. Bright, but doesn't need to be so bright it blinds airplanes.
3. At least 180 degrees of visibility. I want to be seen from the side too.
4. A mounting bracket that screws down with a clamp. Elastic band straps always break or slide down on me.
5. $20 - $40 price range

I started researching but found it annoying how hard it is to get all these elements in a light. Anybody have a light with all/most of these features that they'd recommend? The Cateye Reflex LD560 seems good...anybody use that light?

For the best, kick ass and take names bright n' BIG light none but this one will do!! :thumb:

I won't trust all the dinky butt "bicycle" lights but I do this one!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...c_sfl_title_3?
ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

This baby is "6 inches long 4 inches wide/tall 2 inches thick" Big! :p

Features....
1.)26 Super Bright LED's LED Magnifiers 360º Illumination Fast Flash or Constant On
2.)Seat-Post Mounting Bracket Self Supporting Stand Magnetic Back
3.)Polycarbonate Lens Rugged Construction Extremely Versatile
4.)Accessory Components Available Easy Access to Batteries


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