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Old 11-02-04, 10:31 AM
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Yesterday's commute made me realize a few things

I am not properly equipped anymore. I need some more stuff. With the time change, it is now pitch dark when I leave work, so I need a headlight. When it rains, my eyes get stung. I need some glasses (http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/). I also need some water proof/resistent stuff. The cold November rain is a bit much. I actually wasn't too cold, though, despite being pretty soaked. I was just wet. My shoes are still wet today. I also need fenders. Ah, shopping. Bane of my existence.
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Do a search here , mate. There is much information to help
you find what you need already asked/answered. Best of luck.
(Oh yes, don't go cheap on this equipment for your own safety)
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Old 11-02-04, 12:00 PM
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As a prescription glasses wearer I can state with some authority that wearing glasses in the rain is not much fun. The rain on the glasses messes up your vision. It's like driving with no windshield wipers. Not only that, but in wet weather, they easily fog up due to the high humidity. The closer the glasses are to your face, the worse the fogging problem.
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As a prescription glasses wearer I can state with some authority that wearing glasses in the rain is not much fun. The rain on the glasses messes up your vision. It's like driving with no windshield wipers. Not only that, but in wet weather, they easily fog up due to the high humidity. The closer the glasses are to your face, the worse the fogging problem.
Worse than being pelted in the eyes with water?

I got two pairs of glasses from safetyglassesusa today. They were each about 6$. I'm not expecting much, but maybe they'll be decent. If not I know people that can use them.
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Originally Posted by thechrisproject
I am not properly equipped anymore. I need some more stuff. With the time change, it is now pitch dark when I leave work, so I need a headlight. When it rains, my eyes get stung. I need some glasses (http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/). I also need some water proof/resistent stuff. The cold November rain is a bit much. I actually wasn't too cold, though, despite being pretty soaked. I was just wet. My shoes are still wet today. I also need fenders. Ah, shopping. Bane of my existence.
You're looking to get a serious cold if you ride without fenders and a rain jacket. Get rain pants ASAP!
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Old 11-03-04, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by supcom
As a prescription glasses wearer I can state with some authority that wearing glasses in the rain is not much fun. The rain on the glasses messes up your vision. It's like driving with no windshield wipers. Not only that, but in wet weather, they easily fog up due to the high humidity. The closer the glasses are to your face, the worse the fogging problem.
Hmmm... wonder if Rain-X would work on my glasses....?
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Old 11-03-04, 03:14 AM
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When it rains I always wear a helmet (for safety in case of a fall and also for its rain cover), and keep it tipped low to keep the raindrops out of my eyes, but that only works at low speeds, and sometimes not even then.

Do helmet visors work to any degree at keeping rain out of your eyes?


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Old 11-03-04, 05:38 AM
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Yes. So do peaked hats - that's why classic roadies wore 'em and leathery old tourers still do.
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Old 11-03-04, 07:25 AM
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I always wear eye protection, either sunglasses or clear safety glasses. I wear a cycling cap under my helmet when it is sunny or rainy as the bill keeps sun out of my eyes and keeps at least some of the rain off my glasses. A visor on the helmet would do the same thing, it's just a matter of personal preference.

You definitely need lights for visibility in the dark or rain. The little blinky lights are OK but marginal IMHO. I overtake cyclists all the time with blinkies that I can't see until I am pretty close. Some say the big Cateye blinky is good. The basic 5-LED blinkies that you can get from Performance and Nashbar for about $9.95 are actually better than many $20 ones I have seen. Plenty of reflective material on the back of everything might be even more visible. I wear a lime mesh cycling safety vest with reflective strips from crateworks.com and have 3M Scotchlite on as many rear facing surfaces as I can.

There is a wide range of headlight possibilities. The Total Geekiness thread has lots of ideas for making your own really good light or you can get a number of reasonably priced ones. Some of the 5-LED lights like the Cateye EL-300 and the 3-watt single LED lights are OK and offer long run times. I prefer more light so I made my own systems with 35 W MR-16 halogen lamps and sealed led acid batteries. If you actually want to be able to see where you are going, as opposed to just being visible, I consider 10W an absolute minimum and 20W more acceptable. This is just my opinion. Others find 2.4W dynamo lights adequate.

If you check the thread More Goretex Pants I posted about some new German mil surplus Goretex pants that I just got for $20 plus shipping. Keep an eye out and you may find a deal on a light Goretex jacket. Less expensive alternative for a jacket are the rain jackets from Performance that are made of Propore. They are extremely light and quite breathable. If I had it to do over I would get the one with the hood. Propore is kind of a perforated plastic with a "flocked" sort of lining. For feet you can get either neoprene socks from places like Nashbar or Goretex socks. Places colemans.com have new mil issue Goretex socks for $14.95 vs $40-50 for brand name. They say they are made by SealSkinz.

For protecting your stuff, Nashbar has some inexpensive waterproof bags/liners you can use in either backpacks or panniers.
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I added one of those snap-on smoke-tinted visor from a motorcycle helmet to my bike helmet. It does a great job shading my eyes when the sun's at a low angle, and keeping most of the rain off my glasses. I can also use the snaps I installed on my helmet to attach a motorcycle half-shield if I need to ride in really heavy weather. Those you can at least mop off with a rag periodically as you go.
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Originally Posted by thechrisproject
I am not properly equipped anymore. I need some more stuff. With the time change, it is now pitch dark when I leave work, so I need a headlight. When it rains, my eyes get stung. I need some glasses (http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/). I also need some water proof/resistent stuff. The cold November rain is a bit much. I actually wasn't too cold, though, despite being pretty soaked. I was just wet. My shoes are still wet today. I also need fenders. Ah, shopping. Bane of my existence.
Home Depot sells safety glasses of various types/styles. They're inexpensive and if you drop them on concrete, they don't crack or break.

Yes, you'll need a waterproof shoe of some sort like from Cabeleas.
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Okay, today was raining again. Yesterday I ordered a new jacket and pants from Perfomance, and my glasses should be getting here soon.
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Originally Posted by Becca
Hmmm... wonder if Rain-X would work on my glasses....?
Yes, this is what many people use.
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Originally Posted by Becca
Hmmm... wonder if Rain-X would work on my glasses....?
Be careful if you have an anti-glare treatment on your lenses (i.e. "computer glasses"). My eye doc said not to apply anything but water and mild soap for cleaning lest it muck up the anti-glare coating.
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Operator and BostonKate - thank you!

I don't have any coatings on my glasses. I tried them when I bought these lenses, but three times they came back crazed. I finally told them to just take off all the coatings and forget them. I've been fine ever since... that was 8-9 years ago. I go to an eye exam on the 8th to get new ones. I've been noticing in the past few months that Nashbar's catalog has been printed mostly in fine print!
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Originally Posted by Becca
Hmmm... wonder if Rain-X would work on my glasses....?
Rain-X will help the water bead up nicely, but in cool or cold weather will cause your glasses to fog up because the Rain-X increases the surface tension on the glass (it's basically a dilute wax) that encourages water to bead up.

I think I may try the Rain-X antifog stuff which does the opposite and should prevent water beading. Rain may still distort vision slightly, but it may be better than fogging.
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Full disclosure: I make FogTech(r) anti-fog.

RainX water repellent will not work on your glasses, unless they are made of real glass and have no coatings. Most glasses are made of plastic like polycarbonate or CR-39 as they are much lighter than glass. If you have actual glass lenses and they are not coated RainX should cause water to bead up and roll off. It will do nothing for fogging though.

RainX is a reactive silicone in a mild acid. That acid etches the glass very slightly. Just enough to get some contact points so the silicone can adhere. Once on, the silicone repels water very well. But the acid will do nothing to plastic and coated glass (anti-glare, anti-reflective coatings for example). Over time the silicone does wear off and then you have to renew your RainX treatment. Or you will find that your auto windshield is actually worse than before with more rain drops adhering.

We are trying to develop something that will act like RainX except on plastic. We think we are close.
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Full disclosure: I make FogTech(r) anti-fog.

RainX water repellent will not work on your glasses, unless they are made of real glass and have no coatings. Most glasses are made of plastic like polycarbonate or CR-39 as they are much lighter than glass. If you have actual glass lenses and they are not coated RainX should cause water to bead up and roll off. It will do nothing for fogging though.

RainX is a reactive silicone in a mild acid. That acid etches the glass very slightly. Just enough to get some contact points so the silicone can adhere. Once on, the silicone repels water very well. But the acid will do nothing to plastic and coated glass (anti-glare, anti-reflective coatings for example). Over time the silicone does wear off and then you have to renew your RainX treatment. Or you will find that your auto windshield is actually worse than before with more rain drops adhering.

We are trying to develop something that will act like RainX except on plastic. We think we are close.
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Yes, you'll need a waterproof shoe of some sort like from Cabeleas.
Or some plastic grocery bags and masking tape.
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