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I've never had a permanent patch fail.
But I don't use them on the road. I do it at home in the garage where I have the time & tools & bench to do it right. |
It seems to me, and I say this with literally no experience what so ever, that the most reasonable thing to do in terms of optimizing speed and cost would be to carry a spare tube when you ride and to just swap tires when you get a flat. Then once you return home, patch up the tube that was punctured and either keep it with you as your new spare and alternate between the two with every subsequent flat or swap tubes out again and return the fresh tube to your spares supply.
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Originally Posted by mattkime
(Post 12655117)
I spent a good long while trying to learn how to patch a tube. maybe my problem is that i run these tubes at 100 psi. i tried patching about a dozen times without a single success before giving up. (yes, i tried that...and that....and that....) sure, i might have been doing something wrong but hell if i could figure it out. maybe it had to do with the weather?
patching is cool but its not always practical. |
Originally Posted by Skribb
(Post 12655228)
It seems to me, and I say this with literally no experience what so ever, that the most reasonable thing to do in terms of optimizing speed and cost would be to carry a spare tube when you ride and to just swap tires when you get a flat. Then once you return home, patch up the tube that was punctured and either keep it with you as your new spare and alternate between the two with every subsequent flat or swap tubes out again and return the fresh tube to your spares supply.
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
(Post 12655446)
I think that's what most of us in the "patch" camp do. That's my impression from having read threads here for 5 years now.
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When there's more patches than tube....
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe
(Post 12653940)
I'm trying to figure out what the perceived benefit to not patching is.
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The more pressure you put in a tire, the better the patch is going to adhere. there's 1000 times more surface area pushing the patch hard up against the tube than there is the little hole trying to separate them.
I run 80 PSI and I've still never had a patch fail, after years of running up to 6 or 7 patches on a tube. I HAVE run 100 PSI at times. |
Originally Posted by mattkime
(Post 12655117)
I spent a good long while trying to learn how to patch a tube. maybe my problem is that i run these tubes at 100 psi. i tried patching about a dozen times without a single success before giving up. (yes, i tried that...and that....and that....) sure, i might have been doing something wrong but hell if i could figure it out. maybe it had to do with the weather?
patching is cool but its not always practical. |
Originally Posted by AngelGendy
(Post 12655511)
When there's more patches than tube....
8 bars always.... |
Originally Posted by mattkime
(Post 12655117)
I spent a good long while trying to learn how to patch a tube. maybe my problem is that i run these tubes at 100 psi. i tried patching about a dozen times without a single success before giving up. (yes, i tried that...and that....and that....) sure, i might have been doing something wrong but hell if i could figure it out. maybe it had to do with the weather?
patching is cool but its not always practical. |
It's kind of funny, some of the assumptions on here. I just said I tossed the old tubes these days - I've probably applied hundreds of patches 40 years ago and most of them held up as I recall. I've had a handful of flats the last few years, mostly on the kids' or wife's bikes. When I don't feel like patching I use a new tube - a couple of bucks, what's the issue? The old one I might patch later, might cut up if I want a strip for some reason. I don't think I've actually thrown one in the garbage in two years. If anyone wants to keep patching the same tube more power to them. To me, that's throwing good time and money after bad but like I said it's still just a couple of bucks.
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I bring a spare tube with me, so I can replace it on the go if necessary. When I get home, I patch the one I just replaced, and it becomes my replacement to carry with me.
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In my experience, glueless patches are a waste of time if you're running over 50 psi
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Never tried a glueless patch, but the normal ones work forever, if they're done right. I keep patching until the valve stem fails.
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