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Winterizing my Commuter
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I figured BF might enjoy this for entertainment if nothing else, so I figured I'd show some pictures from this year's winterizing of my commuter bike. Some people find this sort of thing ridiculous and that's really OK - it worked well for me last winter and I'm hoping a re-design will line out a few issues.
First step is the tailbox, which I assembled this weekend: http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...4&d=1314578337 http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...5&d=1314578356 http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...6&d=1314578381 I'm not satisfied with the access cover in front, which is vinyl velcro'd down - I'll probably make a neater hard plastic cover, Eventually there will be an acrylic windshield in front, extending back as a partially enclosing fairing. The tailbox serves as a stable mounting point for the fairing. And holds all my cargo of course. |
You have a recumbent?
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Fairings are not UCI sanctioned for commuting events... this will be an automatic DQ!!
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Originally Posted by electrik
(Post 13146300)
Fairings are not UCI sanctioned for commuting events... this will be an automatic DQ!!
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In the front is where you'll get the most aero advantage;)
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Are you adding a battering ram to the front? That could be a fun addition.
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Originally Posted by cyclokitty
(Post 13146875)
Are you adding a battering ram to the front? That could be a fun addition.
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I don't get what you are trying to accomplish. The best protection for you and your bike from the elements would be fenders. If you are leaving your bike outside in the weather, perhaps a simple cover would suffice. If you are worried about getting cold or wet, buy some winter cycling clothes.
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Originally Posted by alan s
(Post 13146950)
I don't get what you are trying to accomplish. The best protection for you and your bike from the elements would be fenders. If you are leaving your bike outside in the weather, perhaps a simple cover would suffice. If you are worried about getting cold or wet, buy some winter cycling clothes.
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Originally Posted by Rion
(Post 13147361)
I don't understand either. the fairing maybe, since the windchill can make you super cold, but I don't see the reason for the rear box and I definitely don't understand how it "winterizes" the bike. I was expecting some winter tires and clothes when I clicked on this thread...
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Originally Posted by commo_soulja
(Post 13147392)
This thread should be renamed "getting aero" not winterizing. Is that fairing covering a rear rack?
You'd be surprised how "getting aero" can winterize a bike. In my scheme though aero is secondary. ie, if you're going to make it comfortable for winter riding, why not make it aero while you're at it? |
Originally Posted by Rion
(Post 13147361)
I don't understand either. the fairing maybe, since the windchill can make you super cold, but I don't see the reason for the rear box and I definitely don't understand how it "winterizes" the bike. I was expecting some winter tires and clothes when I clicked on this thread...
The tail box is the first and in some ways the most important piece. You have to carry your stuff, preferably dry and conveniently. You've got to have that worked out before trying to design or build a fairing - how are you going to balance weight, lateral surface area or shape if your cargo area isn't set? I'll be bending an acrylic windshield this week and hopefully construct the front end panels this weekend. It should be more clear then what the purpose is. |
You have winter in Georgia? Is that long sleeves at the beach? Let me know when your gatorade freezes solid. Twice for me last year :)
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You have winter in Georgia?
Not so you'd notice, although January this year was a reasonable facsimile during the so-called Snowpocalypse. But it was 10-20 degrees in the mornings through February and I often had frost forming on my gloves and windshield arriving at work so I count that as "winter". My water, being inside the warm air pocket with me didn't freeze ;) |
Originally Posted by wphamilton
(Post 13147761)
Well just quickly, fenders and winter cycling clothes are not the best protection since they only partially block wind and the elements. My hat's off to those hardy souls whose paths I crossed last winter, all bundled up and red faced fighting against the wind and drizzle. But to put it bluntly I was typically wearing short sleeves or work clothes. It's a matter of preference.
The tail box is the first and in some ways the most important piece. You have to carry your stuff, preferably dry and conveniently. You've got to have that worked out before trying to design or build a fairing - how are you going to balance weight, lateral surface area or shape if your cargo area isn't set? I'll be bending an acrylic windshield this week and hopefully construct the front end panels this weekend. It should be more clear then what the purpose is. |
You mean like a messenger bag? Personally I dislike carrying a bag or backpack for the usual reasons, plus the aerodynamic penalty. Any kind of box is much more convenient and useful in my opinion. Just tying a bag on the rack on the other hand, you don't have a rigid shape which makes a fairing problematic, and you have to fuss with securing it, ensuring it's waterproofed and keeping up with it, instead of just throwing stuff into the box.
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Well, personally I ride in very wintery conditions by most standards and I'm very curious to see what WP comes up with. Once it get gets below 0, I have to wear a balaclava + goggles. Ice formation on the inside of the goggles has been a problem in the past though that seems to have been solved with better goggles.
Don't know that I'd be willing or able to do what he's doing to his bike but a fairing sounds like it would make things both more comfortable and allow you to move quicker. I lose a lot of speed during the winter as many people do and one top suspect is increased wind resistance due to the denser cold air. |
I'll also be interested to see how this thread/ winterization project proceeds. Right now, I stop commuting if the temp is below 28 F. At that point, it's just too cold for me to enjoy it. I can put on more clothes, but then it takes longer to change, etc, and it just becomes not worth it to me. If I could put a front fairing on the bike & keep it a bit warmer in there by blocking the wind, it might be worth looking at. I was just checking out zzipper fairings yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Rion
(Post 13147361)
I don't understand either. the fairing maybe, since the windchill can make you super cold, but I don't see the reason for the rear box and I definitely don't understand how it "winterizes" the bike. I was expecting some winter tires and clothes when I clicked on this thread...
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Originally Posted by electrik
(Post 13151601)
What's to understand? Windchill doesn't have that much impact until it really gets blowing.
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Originally Posted by Rion
(Post 13152105)
I know that, what I don't understand is how a rear box "winterizes" a bike.
Originally Posted by electrik
(Post 13151601)
What's to understand? Windchill doesn't have that much impact until it really gets blowing.
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Originally Posted by Rion
(Post 13152105)
I know that, what I don't understand is how a rear box "winterizes" a bike.
Originally Posted by wphamilton
(Post 13152839)
Think of it as a rear fender if that eases your mind about it.
Containing a pocket of air keeps you warm, as opposed to an 18 or 20mph apparent wind which can chill you in a hurry at 20 degrees. Or even 35-40. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...hill_chart.GIF |
I think you're forgetting why blocking off wind and dead air space keeps you warm - it's not the ambient air temperature but the heat exchange from your body. You're welcome to remove the fan belt from your car's radiator if you don't believe me; after all that air isn't moving that fast and would only matter a few degrees, right?
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Originally Posted by wphamilton
(Post 13155098)
I think you're forgetting why blocking off wind and dead air space keeps you warm - it's not the ambient air temperature but the heat exchange from your body. You're welcome to remove the fan belt from your car's radiator if you don't believe me; after all that air isn't moving that fast and would only matter a few degrees, right?
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Perhaps the core problem here is incompatible definitions of winter. It sounds to me like you're trying to windproof your bike, in a way which is compatible with your load-carrying preferences. How do you carry your stuff in summer?
A fairing is intriguing, but on a standard winter day here, the clothing requirements are such that I'm not sure I'd notice much difference. Wind isn't much of a problem when you have no exposed skin. |
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