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Old 10-06-11, 03:40 PM
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New colored bike lane/sharrows on Bryant Ave in Minneap'



They are pretty nice. I think the city is trying to turn Bryant Ave into a major north/south bikeway down the heart of Minneapolis. It seems like a good idea, since most of the MUPs in that area are east/west.

The road is either 25mph or 30mph, mostly residential, with lots of cars parked at any given time. I instantly noticed drivers were a bit more friendly after they added the paint (the sharrows came first). I think more motorists are avoiding the street now as well, since there is a lot of bike traffic.
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Old 10-06-11, 03:54 PM
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It's good to see that they put the sharrow and the paint in the middle of the lane as opposed to what they did on Hennepin where it's off to the right. That's been an experiment gone bad.

Honestly, I think it's more dangerous on Hennepin now than if there were no stripe or sharrow. Cyclists feel they have to stay in the stripe. Technically motorists aren't supposed to be in the lane at all unless they're turning right but that's largely ignored.

The end result is that cars end up passing cyclists way too close. If you're going to allow non-bus motor vehicles in that lane then you need to allow cyclists to ride down the middle to be safe. There's not enough room for a proper bike lane and motorized traffic.
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Old 10-06-11, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
It's good to see that they put the sharrow and the paint in the middle of the lane as opposed to what they did on Hennepin where it's off to the right. That's been an experiment gone bad.

Honestly, I think it's more dangerous on Hennepin now than if there were no stripe or sharrow. Cyclists feel they have to stay in the stripe. Technically motorists aren't supposed to be in the lane at all unless they're turning right but that's largely ignored.

The end result is that cars end up passing cyclists way too close. If you're going to allow non-bus motor vehicles in that lane then you need to allow cyclists to ride down the middle to be safe. There's not enough room for a proper bike lane and motorized traffic.
I don't think Hennepin is unsafe because of the paint, I think it's unsafe because it's a high volume street with tons of cabbies and buses. For what it's worth, I'd rather ride on Hennepin downtown than any part of Lake Street (more in my hood).
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You mean they're not supposed to lead you into parked cars?

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Old 10-06-11, 10:33 PM
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I haven't been on Bryant yet that looks good, and a north south corridor is long overdue. More please! While Hennepin, and First Ave, and many other bike lane schemes in MPLS are far from perfect or safe for that matter, I do applaud them for continuing to try make improvements. As with many things on a broad public scale change happens incrementally, and can be painfully slow. But I do believe the more they do the more drivers become aware of bikes, and they also become aware of lanes and complete streets as being the norm as we move forward. Compared to many american cities we are doing pretty OK.
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Old 10-07-11, 06:33 AM
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It's good to hear the people are being more respectful of the cyclist. Going down 36th St I have been told by some to get off the road and by others to get on the road it's all very confusing.

I believe it's 40th St that is a bike blvd (people at Twinsix told me about it) I have used it a few times going to their office and I must say it's the nicest way to travel, hardly any cars the whole way from the train station. So I hope more of these blvds become available. It is nice that something as simple as adding a color to the lane can help so much, I hope this catches on more also.
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You guys have a fellow on the radio around there by the name of Dan Barreiro that regularly rags on cyclists and the money spent on bike lanes and such. No doubt some of the honkers are his listeners.
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it will be interesting to see how a tire's traction will be effected by moisture on the paint.
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it will be interesting to see how a tire's traction will be effected by moisture on the paint.
I've been wondering about that too, as they've added some "green striping" in places on the U of M campus I regularly bike through. Add to that snow plowing, salt, sand, etc., and it'll be interesting to check out the longevity of it.
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Originally Posted by Scheherezade View Post


They are pretty nice. I think the city is trying to turn Bryant Ave into a major north/south bikeway down the heart of Minneapolis. It seems like a good idea, since most of the MUPs in that area are east/west.

The road is either 25mph or 30mph, mostly residential, with lots of cars parked at any given time. I instantly noticed drivers were a bit more friendly after they added the paint (the sharrows came first). I think more motorists are avoiding the street now as well, since there is a lot of bike traffic.
May I use your photo in an article I am writing on sharrows? I want to contrast streets with lane-centered sharrows versus right-biased sharrows. The article will be for my bike club newsletter plus I may post it to my blog. I will give photo credits - PM me for any details you want to appear.
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Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
You guys have a fellow on the radio around there by the name of Dan Barreiro that regularly rags on cyclists and the money spent on bike lanes and such. No doubt some of the honkers are his listeners.
It's funny you mention him, he is very against the bike lane. I have met Dan quite a few times he is a really nice guy, but this is one area where we can not be in the same room together.
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glad to see progress being made, good to see N Mpls getting a little love as well.
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