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Old 10-16-11, 08:24 AM
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Road Bike w/ Disc Brakes for <$600

BD has some.
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ane/turino.htm

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I've already got one road bike with disk brakes, don't need another, thank you.
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my thoughts: 1) I always thought it was funny the names they appropriated were so mediocre
2) how do you put a rack and fenders on those bikes?
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BikesDirect is really closing the gap with Walmart for producing bikes with bottom of the barrel parts. I'd say it's worth saving the extra $300 for the Motobecane Outlaw.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
BikesDirect is really closing the gap with Walmart for producing bikes with bottom of the barrel parts. I'd say it's worth saving the extra $300 for the Motobecane Outlaw.

Years ago, I bought a bike direct from Ibex. It was a flat bar road bike, and the lowest of their three levels. The parts spec was pretty low end, Shimano 2200. I rode that bike for YEARS. Minimal maintenance. Never missed a shift. Never a problem. I'm starting to think the only reason to get higher end parts is bragging rights and weight.
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Originally Posted by Schwinnrider View Post
Years ago, I bought a bike direct from Ibex. It was a flat bar road bike, and the lowest of their three levels. The parts spec was pretty low end, Shimano 2200. I rode that bike for YEARS. Minimal maintenance. Never missed a shift. Never a problem. I'm starting to think the only reason to get higher end parts is bragging rights and weight.
If more people recognized this, the cycling (maybe capitalist?) economy would collapse.
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You're making me think about pulling the trigger on one of those for myself.

Wait! Don't buy one until I get back! Hold on....
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Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
You're making me think about pulling the trigger on one of those for myself.

Wait! Don't buy one until I get back! Hold on....
LOL!
No, I decided, I won't be buying one. I'm already in full swing with my winter commuter build. No turning back now.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
my thoughts: 1) I always thought it was funny the names they appropriated were so mediocre
2) how do you put a rack and fenders on those bikes?

It looks like it has rack mounts. ' not sure about fenders, though.
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Old 10-17-11, 09:41 AM
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This one from their ad seems funny.

New Road Bikes with Powerful Tektro DISC BRAKES for sure stopping in most conditions.

The Disc Brakes on a road bike give riders more control than a regular road bike and far greater speed than a hybrid or comfort bike.
I am not sure if the disc brakes is reponsible for increased speed. I think its the geometry, weight and engine.
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New Road Bikes with Powerful Tektro DISC BRAKES for sure stopping in most conditions.
This was the part of was suspicious of. That's not what I hear about Tektro mechnical disc brakes.
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This one looks like a better platform for a commuter.



https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ilver_2100.jpg

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Originally Posted by DVC45 View Post
This one looks like a better platform for a commuter.



https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...ilver_2100.jpg

Thats the start of a nice multi-purpose bike, but it needs dirt drops (or maybe moustache bars?), shifters that will work better with said bars (either barcons or something without the dreaded Sora button), and some way to add a rack and fenders.
I'll wait for version 2.0. Also, I refuse to buy a bike for which there is no available geometry chart.

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Old 10-18-11, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
BikesDirect is really closing the gap with Walmart for producing bikes with bottom of the barrel parts. I'd say it's worth saving the extra $300 for the Motobecane Outlaw.
Bikes commonly sold at Wally world are nowhere near the quality of BD bikes. However, the bike in the OP does seems overpriced even for BD. The disc brakes can't add that much value.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
Bikes commonly sold at Wally world are nowhere near the quality of BD bikes.
I'm sure the frames are better. A lot of the problem with Walmart bikes is poor assembly, which in the case of BD depends on who buys the bike. At the very low end, the components they use are similar. What I'm saying is that they are filling in the gap between $100 Walmart bikes and the $400 Sora-equipped bikes they sell, so the cheapest geared bike from BD is only marginally better than a Walmart bike while being only marginally more expensive.

I do like that Zilla better than the Turino, especially for commuting. It seems to have better components for $100 less. The one thing that concerns me about it is their sizing guide. It recommends a 50cm model with a 564mm effective top tube for people 5'7" to 5'9". I'm 5'9" and while that would work for me on a bike with a flat bar, for a bike with drops it would be too big. I find something closer to 545mm to fit me much better. I expect this would be typical of people around my height.

None of them have the rear brake positioned right for a commuter.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
my thoughts: 1) I always thought it was funny the names they appropriated were so mediocre
2) how do you put a rack and fenders on those bikes?
p-clamps for the rack, and forget the Fredly fenders, as they do a mediocre job at best, and introduce toe-clearance issues when you turn.

Disc brakes are great in the rain, and I liked having them on a drop-bar bike. But I got rid of the bike. The BD one in the OP doesn't have wonderful componentry.
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Old 10-18-11, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwinnrider View Post
Years ago, I bought a bike direct from Ibex. It was a flat bar road bike, and the lowest of their three levels. The parts spec was pretty low end, Shimano 2200. I rode that bike for YEARS. Minimal maintenance. Never missed a shift. Never a problem. I'm starting to think the only reason to get higher end parts is bragging rights and weight.
My experience is that while the 2200/Acera level Shimano parts are fully functional and dependable, they aren't as enjoyable to use as the higher end parts. If you're going to buy an entry level bike with the intention of replacing it in a year or two, then I guess the cheaper parts are OK. On the other hand, if you're expecting to put 10,000+ miles on a bike and/or use it for 10+ years, then I think the better parts are well worth the extra cost. With the bikes I was talking about you're looking at $300 to make the jump from 2300 to Tiagra/105 (not to mention upgrades in virtually every other part of the bike). I think it's worth that.

You just have to find you're personal sweet spot in terms of cost versus benefit. Common wisdom says Ultegra/Deore XT is the sweet spot of the Shimano line. Personally, I don't find there to be a lot of difference between 105 and Ultegra or between M590 Deore and M770 XT. I do think there was a noticeable difference between Tiagra 4500 and 105 5600 series. I haven't used the new versions of either of those groups yet (except a 4600 cassette, which I like). YMMV, of course.
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Originally Posted by Schwinnrider View Post
Years ago, I bought a bike direct from Ibex. It was a flat bar road bike, and the lowest of their three levels. The parts spec was pretty low end, Shimano 2200. I rode that bike for YEARS. Minimal maintenance. Never missed a shift. Never a problem. I'm starting to think the only reason to get higher end parts is bragging rights and weight.
I have to agree. While not Wal-Mart level of junk, I have a $300 Giant hybrid that has the cheapest components that you can actually buy (I think someone must be making Wal-Mart stuff specifically for them, not selling them separately, possibly for legal reasons).
That bike has nearly 27,000 miles on it and I'm still happy with it. I replaced the rear derailleur once but there wasn't anything wrong with it; it was just about the same price as buying a new set of pulleys so I figured I'd go ahead and replace the whole thing anyway.
I do have new wheels on it, the stock rear wheel was horrible (badly tensioned, broke spokes, single wall rim). And I've replaced the cables. But apart from that I have no desire to buy a new bike, this one's fine. I have never had to touch the derailleur adjustment except when I installed the new one, and it's always shifted accurately.
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My first (and only previous to the current bike) had unnamed Shimano SIS parts (it was a low end 5 spd Schwinn mountain bike before they went X-mart) and it did the job. My current bike has a mixture of tourney and 200GS parts on it (though I'm upgrading to a mix of RSX, 105, and microshift) and it's shifted fine for the most part (other than when I got what appears to be a bent derailleur hanger - even then I went to friction and was fine). I'd be interested to try integrated levers, but I'm really not sure what all the fuss is about with regards to higher levels. Maybe if I were to actually use them I'd understand, but when I move a lever I get a shift most of the time and if I don't it's probably because I did a poor job of adjusting things. Now with brakes, I could use something better or easier to adjust than my old style canti's , but again, I'm not sure what top of the line would feel like.

I like the idea of disc brakes, but only if they're on a bike that comes with mounts for racks and fenders. My front rack is p-clipped on at the moment, but I'd much prefer an actual mount on the fork for it.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
My experience is that while the 2200/Acera level Shimano parts are fully functional and dependable, they aren't as enjoyable to use as the higher end parts. If you're going to buy an entry level bike with the intention of replacing it in a year or two, then I guess the cheaper parts are OK. On the other hand, if you're expecting to put 10,000+ miles on a bike and/or use it for 10+ years, then I think the better parts are well worth the extra cost. With the bikes I was talking about you're looking at $300 to make the jump from 2300 to Tiagra/105 (not to mention upgrades in virtually every other part of the bike). I think it's worth that.
My experience is the opposite. I have a 6 year old CX Ibex with 8 speed sora as my primary commuter, and it has taken my through 5 winter seasons and 5,000 miles since I've been keeping track. I've had to replace the chain, tires and bar tape on the bike and that's it. My dura ace equipped road bike is only more "enjoyable" to use because it is lighter. The only complain I have about my "cheap" bike is the Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes require tension adjustment every month or two which is more often than I'd like. The only reason I'd prefer Tiagra over Sora on my commuter is it's easier to shift from the drops with the Tiagra+ triggers over the Sora thumb shifters.
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My experience is the opposite. I have a 6 year old CX Ibex with 8 speed sora as my primary commuter, and it has taken my through 5 winter seasons and 5,000 miles since I've been keeping track. I've had to replace the chain, tires and bar tape on the bike and that's it. My dura ace equipped road bike is only more "enjoyable" to use because it is lighter. The only complain I have about my "cheap" bike is the Tektro Oryx cantilever brakes require tension adjustment every month or two which is more often than I'd like. The only reason I'd prefer Tiagra over Sora on my commuter is it's easier to shift from the drops with the Tiagra+ triggers over the Sora thumb shifters.
Sora is definitely getting up into the quality level. I agree with you about the Sora thumb shifters. I am surprised that you don't getting much better shifting with the Dura-Ace stuff. Honestly, I've never used 2200/2300 parts so I'm extrapolating from their appearance and my experience with similar levels of mountain bike shifters.
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