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Old 11-18-11, 06:26 PM
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Rear rack for bike without upper bosses+heel clearance

Just like it says. Picked up a '93 GT MTB to use as my commuter, and although it has two sets of eyelets on the front fork (either side of drop-outs) it only has one set of bosses for a rear rack, the ones at the drop out. My other GT and my Sekai both have another set of taps partway down the seat stays near the bridge that I use to mount the front "tongues" of my rear rack to.

Is there a non-seatpost type of rear rack that has some sort of other attachment? Something like P-clips? I also have size 12 feet and often wear regular shoes or even boots on my platform pedals, so I need something with heel strike clearance.

I often carry one or two Ortlieb top rollers on my rear rack and like for there to be both a platform and many places to secure bungees, both down near the axle, and up near the platform.

Any recommendations?

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Old 11-18-11, 06:40 PM
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Wayne at the touringstore.com has some higher quality p-clamps. There is also (though my Google-Fu is failing me at the moment) some seat post binders that allow you to attach rack stays to.
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Thanks! Curious if there are any other options?

Also, anyone have recommendations for the second part - racks with heel clearance? I love the Jannd (Expedition?) I have on my tourer, but am always interested in trying out different equipment to see if I like it better. Ideally it have a platform and many places to secure bungees, both down near the axle and up near the platform.

Has anyone added their own wood platform to a open style rack? I'm at a loss as to how to do this securely. I'm pretty sure I can make it quite nice otherwise.

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I had the same problem with foot clearance. I now use the Jandd Expedition rack and have no problems.
https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FREXP

the tubus logo also claims to help with heal clearance
https://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-log...ck-p-1028.html
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Old 11-19-11, 11:54 PM
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I also have the Jandd Expedition rack and it provides ample heel clearance. Heel clearance also depends on the size of the bag too.

That being said, have you considered a large saddle bag for commuting? My personal favorite is the Nelson Longflap. Waterproof, breathable, virtually indestructible, and doesn't require a rear rack.
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Old 11-20-11, 11:46 PM
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I also have the Jandd Expedition rack and it provides ample heel clearance. Heel clearance also depends on the size of the bag too.

That being said, have you considered a large saddle bag for commuting? My personal favorite is the Nelson Longflap. Waterproof, breathable, virtually indestructible, and doesn't require a rear rack.
I am considering it. I'm about to be combining commuting to work full time with going to school part time again for the next two years, then full time both after that. I'm thinking I'll need to be able to carry two panniers worth of stuff regularly. I have a Chrome Metropolis too, but I'd like to get the load off my back, my work is physical enough and then I'm rolling at least 70 miles a week, and most weeks at least 100. I'm toying with the idea of a large saddlebag and a front rack that will take panniers, but with all the weight I've got to carry I'm not sure I want that much of it on the front despite being an experienced tourer.

I think the biggest turn off for the saddlebags for me is I have yet to see one that looks like it'd come quickly off the bike and be comfortable to portage from the racks all the way up four flights of stairs to class, or all the way back and forth across a large hospital campus to the bike commuters locker room from my department and the bike cage, especially since I'll probably be lugging at least one more bag around with me.

It's good to hear the Nelson Longflap is waterproof, here is Seattle that is a must! Does it have attachment for a shoulder strap? If so, is it comfortable at all to sling for the equivalent of a couple of blocks? Did you have to get one of those bars that support its weight so it doesn't swing around or otherwise support it?

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Old 11-21-11, 07:13 AM
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Definitely check out the Carradice bags. They come in a range of sizes and the larger ones will hold as much as a small set of panniers. They have rings on the top that you could attach a shoulder strap to, altho they don't come with straps. I use their smallest bag, the Barley, for commuting year-round and it holds everything I need 99% of the time. On most days, it's got more room than I need. I would recommend getting the Carradice Bagman rack with quick release if you get one of their bags, because it keeps the bag from swaying and hitting your legs, and quick release makes it very easy to install and remove. My gear has never gotten wet inside my Barley in 4-1/2 years of use.
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1- A large saddlebag will carry as much a pannier. Carradice's Camper Longflap has a capacity of 24 L while Carradice's front panniers have a capacity of 28 L per pair. The biggest difference is the Camper will have added capacity due to the longflap feature. It also has tie down points on the back where you can affix something as large as the Carradice Super C stuff sack for an added 30 L of capacity. I have the Nelson Longflap, Junior, and Super C front and rear panniers. I have used them all and highly recommend any of them. Given the heel-strike issues, personally I'd try the SQR (below) and a saddlebag before panniers.

2- Carradice SQR system is a quick release set-up (from what I've read, I don't use it)
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Old 11-23-11, 07:29 PM
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Thanks everyone! I've been wondering about going this route for some time, now with the impetus of my new commuter lacking the upper braze-ons and the quick release option of these bags I think I am going to give this a try.

My next question I guess is which is the largest model of Carradice bag? Perusing their website I didn't see size listed in litres or anything else...?
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Check wallbike.com. They have sizing, weight limit, and amount of seat post needed broken down by frame size listed for the 3 SQR bags they offer.
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Old 12-02-11, 05:45 AM
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Thanks everyone!

So I've finally got the funds to do this and am looking around. I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with Zimbale bags? Seems like it might be an a viable alternative to Carradice or others. They seem well made and I like the styling.

Definitely want to go with the quick release mount as I need to be able to remove the bag to take it in to work with my work clothes in it and to not leave the bag out on the racks at school where it is sure to be stolen. It looks like there are a few options in the quick releases, anyone have a preference?
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Old 12-02-11, 11:44 AM
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Thanks! Curious if there are any other options?
seat post mounted beam rack , there are spaniel ear bags that people even tour with
using that rack type.
moving up works as well as moving back.

Carradice SQR scheme offers a quick release for bag and support.
they make one for carrying the traditional canvas bags ,
there are also bags that are longer, not as wide with big volume
also using the SQR clip on the seatpost.

there is a student with a 13" screen notebook sized one of those.

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Old 12-02-11, 11:56 AM
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the acxiom streamliner can attach to your brake mount if you are still looking at rear rack/pannier combos. You probably cant load them as heavy as a regular type rack though.
https://www.amazon.com/Axiom-Streamli...2848469&sr=8-3
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I made this for my bike:



Works good so far(3 years and many miles)
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the Axiom Streamliner can attach to your brake mount if you are still looking at rear rack/pannier combos. You probably cant load them as heavy as a regular type rack though.
https://www.amazon.com/Axiom-Streamli...2848469&sr=8-3
I am still looking, I'm concerned about the expense of a quick release + large saddlebag and a bag support. I've already got panniers, so if I can find a rear rack that will work for me that might be the better way for me to go for now. I wonder if Axiom sells the Steamliners struts that attach to the Canti bosses, I'm going to take a look around and see if that is the case. Sometimes I lash loads to my rear rack with bungee cords and I'm concerned that rack doesn't have good places for my hooks to hang out at. If I could get the struts as a separate item there are probably racks I'd like better that I could attach them to.

I had forgotten that Old Man Mountain makes a rear version of their Cold Springs rack, and it too attaches to the Canti bosses. Unfortunately it has the same issue. I suppose I can usually wind the bungees around parts of the rack multiple times to take up the slack and then attach them higher up, but since I'm shopping I'm on the quest for the Holy Grail of racks in the hopes that it is out there. If it isn't, then I'll settle for something less or see if I can afford to pony up for a large saddlebag system.
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Originally Posted by Booger1 View Post
I made this for my bike:
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Works good so far(3 years and many miles)
That is great! Did you cast it, or do you have a CNC machine? You should sell these! I'd buy one!
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Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
Definitely check out the Carradice bags. They come in a range of sizes and the larger ones will hold as much as a small set of panniers. They have rings on the top that you could attach a shoulder strap to, altho they don't come with straps. I use their smallest bag, the Barley, for commuting year-round and it holds everything I need 99% of the time. On most days, it's got more room than I need. I would recommend getting the Carradice Bagman rack with quick release if you get one of their bags, because it keeps the bag from swaying and hitting your legs, and quick release makes it very easy to install and remove. My gear has never gotten wet inside my Barley in 4-1/2 years of use.
Are there any carradice bags that can fit a 13 inch macbook? The smallest possible one that could accomplish that would be my preference.
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Axiom Journey Adjustable. I put one on my road bike with P-clamps on the seat stays. I, too, wear a size 12 and in winter sometimes wear big clodhoppers. By setting the rack at the highest setting for the vertical post, I have plenty of heel room. Supports 110 lbs., too.
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Old Man Mountain Red Rock. Good length to get the panniers placed further back, attaches to the brake bosses.
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I see someone mentioned the Axiom Streamliner.

Tubus racks aren't exactly cheap, but they also make the Fly which is specifically made for bikes without bosses, as well as kits for attaching any of their racks via p-clamps, kit for quick release attachment which would move the rack back, etc etc -
https://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS...OME%20PAGE.htm
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I used a rear reflector mount on a couple of bikes. Just bend it so the tip lines up with the bottom of the rack. This installation required a small square of stainless as the center of the rack had nothing to bolt to.
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#18, Consider .. https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/carradice...ltr-prod13796/

there are others of different sizes too. but this one is a Dry bag .
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