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Old 12-09-04, 10:46 AM
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I'd just like to share this so anybody won't make my mistake, therefore endangering your safety.

Last night felt a little adventurous, so decided to change my usual route (I have 3 clear mark known routes to choose from) to one I didn't know much about, just assuming (assuming: never a good idea, specially at night) that it'll lead to a road I already know, but as you may guess it lead instead to a highly traffic route with a lot of intersections that cut into interstates and highways, since I already was there, couldn't really back up w/o risking getting more lost, so I decided to wing it since I was lit up like a Xtmas tree anyway, I got into the traffic, no one blew horns or anything like that for that matter, but sure was risky and couldn't help feel my "Xtmas" balls right up my throat, literally if you know what I mean.

Bottom line: never venture riding, at night, onto unscouted routes 'cause it might lead to possible danger and trouble.

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Old 12-09-04, 12:02 PM
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Its always nice sticking to known route as you learn the traffic patterns, how to recognise when things are not right and have better backgound of how to react to emergencies

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Old 12-09-04, 12:55 PM
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Yeah I turned right into an oncoming car and swerved away at the last minute after making a wrong turn at an intersection yesterday.
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Old 12-09-04, 09:42 PM
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I've made that "mistake" many times myself quite deliberately, and at no stage have I ever felt endangered. What actually happened that made it so scary?
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Old 12-09-04, 10:59 PM
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like chris said, what was so dangerous corsaire!?
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Old 12-10-04, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by oaxacarider
like chris said, what was so dangerous corsaire!?
rush hour, highly traffic highway with no shoulders, car zipping right pass me on my left at perhaps less than a foot from me.
Luckily, it was only for a minute or less, since I found out I could get out of there by making a quick right to a safer street.
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Plus at night you can't see potholes on a road. If it's a familiar road you know where the holes are already.
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Another reason I like my HID, I can see Glass, big branches, pot holes, etc.
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Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
Another reason I like my HID, I can see Glass, big branches, pot holes, etc.
Actually, that wasn't the problem, there were street light and my light system is strong, the danger was the actual heavy traffic at rush hour zooming right pass me at very close range.
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Originally Posted by Corsaire
rush hour, highly traffic highway with no shoulders, car zipping right pass me on my left at perhaps less than a foot from me.
Luckily, it was only for a minute or less, since I found out I could get out of there by making a quick right to a safer street.
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That's strange, "rush hour" in most places means gridlock, means cyclists zooming past rows and rows of stuck cars, and means enough witnesses around to deter any deliberate attacks from drivers. Personally, I find this the safest time to be out on a bike.
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Originally Posted by Chris L
That's strange, "rush hour" in most places means gridlock, means cyclists zooming past rows and rows of stuck cars, and means enough witnesses around to deter any deliberate attacks from drivers. Personally, I find this the safest time to be out on a bike.
I'm very amused by your statement, hey guys! Rush hour is the SAFEST time to be on the bike, let's go out ride between these times all the time, WOW! very revealing indeed: "the safest time to be on the bike."
I didn't really think of that before man, wow! you are a genious!
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Old 12-11-04, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Corsaire
I'm very amused by your statement, hey guys! Rush hour is the SAFEST time to be on the bike, let's go out ride between these times all the time, WOW! very revealing indeed: "the safest time to be on the bike."
I didn't really think of that before man, wow! you are a genious!
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Keep in mind rush hour means different things in different cities. Coming from southern CA in chuckle every time someone complains about traffic.

On some roads here in Tucson, rush hour is the best time to be on them. Usually if traffic is moving faster then you, people tend to want to rush ahead of they to make a right. This happens less often when they can't rush ahead without ramming into the car in front of them and they can't overtake you since traffic is moving at bicycle speeds.
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Originally Posted by Ganesha
Keep in mind rush hour means different things in different cities. Coming from southern CA in chuckle every time someone complains about traffic.

On some roads here in Tucson, rush hour is the best time to be on them. Usually if traffic is moving faster then you, people tend to want to rush ahead of they to make a right. This happens less often when they can't rush ahead without ramming into the car in front of them and they can't overtake you since traffic is moving at bicycle speeds.
Certainly NOT by where I live, unless you take Interstates like 80 or Rte. 46 which, of course, I don't even think of riding 'cause bicycle riding is forbidden.
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so you saying its dangerous to ride on a road with no shoulder, where cars might zipp right pass me? wow!! how am i going to go anywhere??
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Originally Posted by Ganesha
On some roads here in Tucson, rush hour is the best time to be on them. Usually if traffic is moving faster then you, people tend to want to rush ahead of they to make a right. This happens less often when they can't rush ahead without ramming into the car in front of them and they can't overtake you since traffic is moving at bicycle speeds.
It doesn't matter, he doesn't really want to know. Just read his response to my post above, no actual reasoning given as to any different view-point, just a poor attempt at sarcasm. Clearly, what we have here is a "look at me" thread and nothing more.
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Originally Posted by Corsair
[What was so dangerous was... ] rush hour, highly traffic highway with no shoulders, car zipping right pass me on my left at perhaps less than a foot from me.
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the danger was the actual heavy traffic at rush hour zooming right pass me at very close range.
Cars "zipping right pass (sic) me on my left at perhaps less than a foot from me" is a sure sign of one thing: you are riding too far to the RIGHT.

Apparently, the right lane on this road is not wide enough to be safely shared side-by-side by a car and bike at the same. If cars sharing the lane with you are passing you within 3 feet, much less within one foot, that is definitely the case.

On such a road, you should be riding at least as far left as the right "tire track" of cars. This forces motorists to merge into the next adjacent lane to the left (whether it is oncoming or same-direction). If you stay further to the right you are communicating to them that YOU believe the lane is wide enough for them to safely squeeze in with you. But it's clearly not, and you need to communicate to them the exact opposite: so move left and make it clear!

Many cyclists might think that riding so far left is either unsafe or rude. But the main safety principle in cycling is to be visible and predictable. By riding in their path, which is where they are looking, you are very visible, and, perhaps ironically, very safe. You will find they will come up behind and slow down, moving into the adjacent lane to pass when it is safe for them to do so, and, when they do, they will pass you with plenty of safety margin. They might shake their heads because they're not accustomed to seeing cyclists ride so assertively down this road, but so what? All the more reason to do it - it's time to get motorists accustomed to cyclists taking their rightful (and SAFE) place on the road!

And it's also not rude, nor even impolite. It is your right to ride your bicycle on that road, and it is unsafe to ride on it along the right edge (because this invites motorists to pass you too closely - which is unsafe). Is it rude or impolite to do the only safe and prudent thing? Of course not! Assert your right in the lane!

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Old 12-20-04, 09:46 PM
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Rush hour is dangerous because motorists are anxious to get home in complete disregard of their surrounding and safety. And you have more cars double parking (live in the city) which literally forces you to take the outside lane. You have trucks and buses to deal with. In rush hours, these dumbass motorists will even be speeding in residential/small streets.
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