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imi 12-17-11 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 13611644)
... after I drilled into a buried junction box (which had no cover on it to begin with). I ask for assistance with these things when sparks fly and the lights go out. But that's just me…

oops! :roflmao2:

Grim 12-17-11 11:01 AM

Had them and took them off. Bike seems to hit the ground more with them then leaned against a fixed object.

Now one of my bikes vintage bikes has a "Flick stand" that locks the front wheel from rotating and keeps the handle bars from turning. Love that thing! but most of my DD bikes they dont fit (wide down tube).

On another bike I have a parking brake wedge (you stick it in the brake lever to hold the front brake on). Again a nice device to keep the front wheel from rotating making it less prone to rolling and falling. Unfortunatly it wont work on a Brifter. There is one that wraps the lever to the bar but not picked one up yet.

imi 12-17-11 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Grim (Post 13611910)
On another bike I have a parking brake wedge (you stick it in the brake lever to hold the front brake on). Again a nice device to keep the front wheel from rotating making it less prone to rolling and falling. Unfortunatly it wont work on a Brifter. There is one that wraps the lever to the bar but not picked one up yet.

Microphone cables often come with a short velcro strap which is perfect for this.

Mark Stone 12-17-11 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Grim (Post 13611910)
Had them and took them off. Bike seems to hit the ground more with them then leaned against a fixed object.

Now one of my bikes vintage bikes has a "Flick stand" that locks the front wheel from rotating and keeps the handle bars from turning. Love that thing! but most of my DD bikes they dont fit (wide down tube).

On another bike I have a parking brake wedge (you stick it in the brake lever to hold the front brake on). Again a nice device to keep the front wheel from rotating making it less prone to rolling and falling. Unfortunatly it wont work on a Brifter. There is one that wraps the lever to the bar but not picked one up yet.

+1 on the Flick Stand, I have one on my road bike and they are awesome. It simply locks the front wheel into position so when you lean the machine it stays put. I wish they had something similar for the Rig!

cehowardGS 12-17-11 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 13609887)
none of my bikes have kickstands.

i'm one of the cool kids. :P

:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

MMACH 5 12-17-11 03:12 PM

Touring bike: Yes
Road bike: Yes
Grocery bike: Yes
MTB: Yes
Beach cruiser: Yes
Any bike I get in the future: Yes

For me, the convenience is worth any trade off.

rumrunn6 12-17-11 04:25 PM

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yup, gotta have one and it's gotta be beefy

cyclokitty 12-18-11 12:05 AM

My bike has one and it's handy in the apartment because there aren't any good leaning spots. Also nice when there is one pannier on the rack and I remember something else to add. The last time I did that and left the bike with pannier leaning against the hallway wall the bike slid to the floor. Luckily it landed on the pannier or I'd need the rd hanger straighted again.

Bike Gremlin 12-18-11 06:08 AM

Sidestand is practical and, for a heavy commuter, makes very little relative weight difference.

+ side:
+ You can load rack easily, approaching it from all sides - no walls or posts to bother you.
+ You can leave the bike in an appartment (or other place) where there is nothing to lean it against without making a stain (white walls etc).
+ Center stand - haven't tried it on a bicycle, just motorcycle, but it should help with roadside tyre changes/chain maintenance.

- side:
- Apart from "weight", "looks" etc, that would bother me on a light road bike, the only real penalty is it is not 100% stable. Strong wind, sloped ground etc can make bike slide from the sidestand and fall down.


Bottom line: adds weight (and one more gadget on a bike), adds practicality. It just comes down to how practical you find it. Won't know untill you try it.

Gravity Aided 12-18-11 06:41 AM

I always have one on the commuting bike, an old Nishiki which I also use for about everything in the winter .

sci_femme 12-18-11 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 13610726)
In city riding, I can't see the point of a kickstand. I never, ever, ever, ever leave my bikes anywhere without locking them. The lock and the post I've locked it to keeps it from falling down. Kickstands are superfluous.

Don't believe me? This is my living room:
http://www.brucew.com/images/bikefor...in-out-800.jpg
I never, ever, ever, ever leave my bikes anywhere without locking them. Even in my own living room.

Beautiful floor. Tragic futon.


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 13611021)
Nope.

superfluous

adjective
  1. being more than is sufficient or required; excessive.
  2. unnecessary or needless.
  3. Obsolete. possessing or spending more than enough or necessary; extravagant.


Citation: Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/superfluous (accessed: December 16, 2011).

You could make an argument for definition one, but definition two is what I was going for.

He shoots, he scores!!!!


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 13611644)
Yes, my landlord knows they're there. I asked him before I moved in, and he helped me install them after I drilled into a buried junction box (which had no cover on it to begin with). I ask for assistance with these things when sparks fly and the lights go out. But that's just me…

Man asking for directions!!! You should have your own TV reality show how's it done!

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Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/direction

I am going for definition two.

SF

sci_femme 12-18-11 09:22 AM

I will never desecrate my commuter with a kickstand.

Gawd, I love this thread!

SF

JanMM 12-18-11 09:35 AM

Don't see the need for one.

ces 12-18-11 01:06 PM

I used to hate kickstands when I used the single-leg type that mounted between the BB and chainstay bridge. They were always coming loose and more often than not the bike would fall over when the stand was in use. Then I switched to the type that mount to the rear triangle. I've almost never had a bike fall over when using a rear-triangle stand even when I've had a 50# load strapped to the top of the rear rack.

It is great to be able to stop a bike anywhere and have it hold itself up. It greatly increases the number of places I can lock up, especially when used with a stout cable or chain. The location just has to provide something stout to thread the cable or chain through and the bike can hold itself up.

Any bike I get in the future is either going to have a rear-triangle, double-foot, or center stand along with fenders and lights with the possible exception of a go-fast road machine or serious offroad MTB. Even then kickstands, fenders, and lights are almost too handy to do without.

ces 12-18-11 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 13610726)
Don't believe me? This is my living room:
http://www.brucew.com/images/bikefor...in-out-800.jpg
I never, ever, ever, ever leave my bikes anywhere without locking them. Even in my own living room.

Wow, you must be in a rough neighborhood if you need to go to that much trouble to secure your bikes inside your apartment.

Mark Stone 12-18-11 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by sci_femme (Post 13614244)
He shoots, he scores!!!!

Not really. The statement was "The lock and the post I've locked it to keeps it from falling down. Kickstands are superfluous." In this statement, the concept or the idea of a kickstand would be superfluous, but the actual use of the kickstand would be redundant. The statement describes the actual use of the kickstand. The final statement should have read "The use of kickstands are (or would be) superfluous", which would have been correct. But the item itself, as described, is redundant. The subject of the sentence is the kickstand itself, which is the redundant item, and not the idea, which would have been superfluous.

Nevertheless, I will not start using a kickstand and you can't make me nyah nyah nyah

tsl 12-18-11 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by ces (Post 13614965)
Wow, you must be in a rough neighborhood if you need to go to that much trouble to secure your bikes inside your apartment.

No, I live in a very good neighborhood. But I live in a century-old 46-unit apartment building. I don't know who in the last century has kept keys when they moved out, or gave keys to their deadbeat boyfriends, or which contractors and their day labor crews have keys. In short: I don't control the keys to the building or to my unit. The only keys I can control are those to my bike locks.

I learned this all the hard way at the last apartment I lived at. All they took was the one bike and my box of spare parts. Left the electronics, and everything else.

PaulH 12-18-11 04:14 PM

Yes. Not essential. like lights, chainguard,or fenders, but helps to make cycling more convenient. Convenience is what got me into cycling.
Paul

chefisaac 12-18-11 04:57 PM

tsl: why dont you just change the locks? Simple. Dont ask... just do. Always easier to ask for forgiveness! :)

chefisaac 12-18-11 04:57 PM

I think I might try one on my mtn bike commuter. It will make things easier when getting into the panniers, parking my bike at work, and moving it around in my apartment.

fietsbob 12-18-11 05:21 PM


tsl: why dont you just change the locks?
I drilled the required holes in the door and installed my own Deadbolt, then gave the owner a key,
as required by law I believe.. Being a slumlord, I'd be waiting for years before He did it ..

Stealthammer 12-18-11 05:29 PM

Nope, that's the only part that comes off before reflectors and rear wheel spoke "guards"....

tsl 12-18-11 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by chefisaac (Post 13615430)
tsl: why dont you just change the locks? Simple. Dont ask... just do. Always easier to ask for forgiveness! :)

Because it's even easier to just lock my bikes.

nashcommguy 12-18-11 06:44 PM

When commuting urban I did, but now that most of my commute is rural there's really no need.

Mark Stone 12-18-11 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by tsl (Post 13615677)
Because it's even easier to just lock my bikes.

Not only that, but if you have a lot of visitors, locking them indoors may keep them safe from unauthorized use . . . These are not just bicycles, but for many of us they define a lifestyle and are a centerpiece of our lives. I think I'm going to go get some extra locks this evening!


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