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Seattle Forrest 12-19-11 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by kccommuter (Post 13611974)
I have a Showers Pass Elite 2.0 which has been great, but my base layer gets damp at temps below 25 Deg F. I have tried severe venting, different base layers, etc but no success. I posted a while back and it seems others just cope with the dampness and use wool base layers, etc - http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...e+condensation

If you're not using a mid layer between your wool base layer and your Shower's Pass shell, that's the problem. Sounds very counter-intuitive, but it's true, and a much better jacket also worn over a base layer but not mid layer will do the same thing. Invest in a cashmere sweater, or a fleece, or a softshell.

Your base layer's job is to move your sweat outward. Your shell can only let so much vapor out, and, once it's at its limit, this starts to condense into drops of sweat, and then it's trapped. You'll start to feel clammy, which is cold in its own right, and, when you stop, like for a red light, your body will try to produce more heat to compensate. An insulating layer puts an end to that, and helps deal with the sweat, away from your body, keeping you nice and comfortable.

Seattle Forrest 12-19-11 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Booger1 (Post 13618360)
They (modern materials)work for a while,but you will overwelm it if you are actually riding hard for any period of time.

Maybe it's time for battery operated material,it can swell and contract on demand with a button....:)

Cashmere wool (from goats, not sheep like merino) loses most of its insulating power temporarily, when it gets both warm and humid, which is what happens immediately before you begin to sweat. No button necessary.

Leebo 12-20-11 08:41 AM

I have a new balance running jacket that I use for cold rides. It is a thin knit fabric with windproof nylon on the front and top of sleeves only, works well. Layered with a polypro base and then a wool layer. 38 F to at the start today, 18 miles and 1.25 hours. Warm, mostly wind proof and a little sweaty when done. Have you looked at running/ cross country ski type stuff ? I think an insulating soft shell with gore wind proof or something like that would be a good fit. I have gore wind stopper gloves that work great.

Erick L 12-20-11 10:28 AM

I use a simple Sierra Design thin nylon wind jacket not made for cycling, although it does have a longer tail. It predates so called "softshells", breathes and has a back vent. The collar is quite large so I can fit a neck fleece tube inside.

canyoneagle 12-21-11 10:24 AM

I use my showers pass elite 2.0 rain shell over my insulating and base layers. Works great. similar scenario for the legs, too.
Once the temps are below freezing I add a thin balaclava that I tuck into my mid layer, and it helps keep the drafts from coming down my neck.

muu 12-21-11 12:37 PM

Pearl izumi elite barrier. Windproof, water resistant, converts to a vest, so yellow it hurts your eyes to look at. Been commuting in high 20's with this and a wool underlayer.


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