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yuzu 01-24-12 01:21 AM

Any Honolulu cyclists that ride on the road?
 
I found out sort of recently that bicyclists are required to stay as far right as possible when riding on the road according to Hawaii law. With no minimum passing law for cars, I often see bicyclists riding in the gutter and cars will pass within inches of them in the same lane.

I've been pretty ok with riding on the sidewalk, but have been having terrible experiences with crosswalks lately.

I talked to one cyclist who was actually ticketed by HPD for taking the lane. I was wondering if this was common or if that cop was just having a bad day?

I'm kind of at a loss, it seems like both the sidewalk and road are both lose lose. Why can't we just invest in some bike lanes instead of the money pit of a train we're building...

EXCALIBUR 01-24-12 04:02 AM

I live in Honolulu, Hawaii and ride on the streets. I very rarely ride on the sidewalks. Why would HPD ticket a cyclist for taking the lane?

unterhausen 01-24-12 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by yuzu (Post 13759549)
I found out sort of recently that bicyclists are required to stay as far right as possible when riding on the road according to Hawaii law.

the word is "practicable." It's entirely different than the word "possible." It's not practicable to ride in the door zone. If the lane is not wide enough to share safely, generally agreed to be 14', then there is no safety in staying as far right as possible, and safety trumps convenience every time.

I imagine the people that ride in the left tire track get to meet law enforcement types occasionally, justified or not. When I'm riding at a speed where it is unsafe to pass, I will ride in the left tire track. Otherwise I ride in the right tire track. This is far enough over to break the mystical bonds of the lane marker that seems to be more important than my safety.

yuzu 01-24-12 09:01 AM

Well practical is in the law, I guess I'm just curious to know if anyone else has had issues with this:

Riding on roadways and bikeways (291C-145)

  1. When traveling slower than the normal speed of traffic, bicyclists are to ride as close to the right hand curb or on the shoulder of the roadway, as practical. Be careful when passing a stopped vehicle or one going the same direction. There are the allowed exceptions to the "right hand" rule:
    1. When preparing for a left turn at an intersection, private road, or driveway;
    2. When necessary to avoid hazards that make it unsafe to ride along the right hand curb. This includes situations where the traffic lane is too narrow for a bicycle and a motor vehicle to travel safely side-by-side; or
    3. When one-way streets have more than one lane of traffic, the bicyclist may ride near the left hand curb or edge.

Pobble.808 01-24-12 09:22 AM

Longtime Hono bike commuter here and I have never had a problem with this. Of course, I also see plenty of riders doing stuff like running red lights and salmoning but I've never seen any of them get stopped either.

The only case I've ever heard of of a cyclist getting stopped was for sidewalk riding. Honolulu law prohbits this in "business areas" but it seems that there is no formal designation of which areas this means, so it is up to the discretion of the LEO.

Tom808 01-24-12 11:34 AM

I have been cycling in Honolulu for years. I agree that the cycling infrastructure here is very poor. The local officials give lip service to bikes as transportation, but road conditions for cyclists are deplorable. Car drivers perceive bicyclists a yet another contributor to the terrible traffic that they experience downtown. I have not had any issues with Police while cycling, but I do obey all laws and ride on the street. The only sidewalk riding I do is by the Federal Building where Halekauwila street turns one way right before it hits Ala Moana Blvd.

I always dismount when going through an unregulated crosswalk. My strategy is to be predictable, but assertive. I always push my bike in front of me. If motorists are going to violate the law and ignore me , then they will drive away with a bicycle stuck in their grill. Some motorists don't like this.


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