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Old 01-27-12, 02:15 PM
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Stop sign = yield sign for cyclists in AZ?? Maybe?

http://azstarnet.com/article_c391e53...e0ba2dc3f.html

PHOENIX - State lawmakers are moving to let Arizona bicyclists breeze through stop signs.

Legislation approved Thursday by the House Transportation Committee would let cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs. That means they would need to stop only if there were cross traffic.

Let's hope it passes the House.
I mean, everybody does this anyway, but it'd be nice if it was legal. :-)
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Let's hope it goes national!
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i've been treating stop stigns as yield signs my entire life.

not once have i ever been hassled by the fuzz for it (CPD has got much bigger fish to fry).

making it officially legal might make it feel nice, but wouldn't really mean much to me.
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
i've been treating stop stigns as yield signs my entire life.
Me too. And I live and ride in AZ! Great news!
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everyone in Pennsylvania treats stop signs as yield signs and yield signs as if they weren't there. When I was in California recently all the people actually stopping at stop signs drove me nuts. The right turn on red law is so badly observed that there are "no right turn on red" signs all over the downtown here. Wouldn't have to be that way if people didn't abuse the rule.

Just this morning I had the ROW over a motorist at a stop sign who did sort of yield to me without ever stopping. Hate that.
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If that passes, we'll need to get red lights the same treatment.
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This would be a great change. It failed in Oregon.

In many cases, getting rid of the stop signs is a better option.
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Almost all motorists, myself included, don't come to a full stop at a stop sign when there is no other vehicle to which to yield the right of way. I estimate that the speed I slow down to on my bike at a stop sign in that situation is pretty close to that which I do as a motorist. Since our roll-through speed as cyclist is a much greater fraction of our cruising speed than that of motorists, I wouldn't be surprised if the average cyclist's "rolling stop sign" speed was similar to the average motorist's.
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Originally Posted by wisaunders View Post
If that passes, we'll need to get red lights the same treatment.
The law in Idaho has been in effect for a few decades that bicyclists can legally treat Stop signs as if they were Yield signs and red lights as if they were Stop signs. AFAIK, efforts to enact similar legislation has not yet succeeded in any other state. Good luck on the Arizona legislation - hope it can spread to more states.
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Old 01-27-12, 10:30 PM
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This recently passed here in New Mexico. No real problems or protests or anything, but I think many cyclists had mixed feelings, due to the fact that it received little attention and many drivers probably don't realize that cyclists are now free to do so...
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