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Old 02-01-12, 05:42 PM
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Schwalbe Studs Popping Out?

So I'm enjoying my Schwalbe Marathon Winters, but I've lost four or five studs from my front tire, three of them in a row. When I emailed the company, asking for some studs that I could pop back in, I got a prompt reply saying that this was normal and that this would not affect the performance of the tire, so basically "tough luck". This is the first year that I've used these tires, and if I knew that this was a possibility, I probably would have bought them anyway, but I'm still bummed. Anyone else out there have this issue?
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Old 02-01-12, 06:00 PM
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There was a thread on this at Winter Cycling.
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I've got about 120-150 miles on a pair of 700x35 I bought last summer. I've lost at least 3 from the front. I have not examined the rear to count losses there (I see the cavities up front at stop lights). A few times I've noticed a stud starting to come out of the front tire (if I recall correctly, always the outer row, though at least 2 of the studs I've fully lost were in a center row); in those cases I carefully poked the stud back in with the screwdriver blade on my tiny pen knife. I'm not thrilled at the losses, but I've read online that it's normal to lose a few each season, so I'm not worried.

Three in a row sounds bad but also a little suspicious -- perhaps you had to make a somewhat more sudden stop at some point? I've generally ridden conservatively on the MWs -- the constant hum reminds me that I'm not on normal rubber and ought to be more cautious.
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I'm on my 3rd season of Winters 700x35. They have a little over 2000km on them (about 1200 miles). I've lost 1 stud in the back and none in the front. The one in the back came from a skid on clear pavement when a car suddenly pulled out in front of me, so I don't fault them for that. Otherwise, I don't ride aggressively, especially when NOT on ice. Before riding them for the first time, I did the 40km (25mi) recommended ride on clear roads to make sure they were seated properly.
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Old 02-02-12, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by peterw_diy View Post
Three in a row sounds bad but also a little suspicious -- perhaps you had to make a somewhat more sudden stop at some point? I've generally ridden conservatively on the MWs -- the constant hum reminds me that I'm not on normal rubber and ought to be more cautious.
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I've lost 1 stud in the back and none in the front. The one in the back came from a skid on clear pavement when a car suddenly pulled out in front of me, so I don't fault them for that. Otherwise, I don't ride aggressively, especially when NOT on ice.
I am riding studded Nokians since they essentially appeared on US market. I might have lost 2-3 studs in one that was 7-seasons old or something and replaced those studs since and I am riding sidewalks and other rough terrain. I do not think that you should be seeking fault with yourselves.
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i've had my marathon winters on for about 1 month now, and ridden 'em for roughly 500 miles. i've got 1 stud missing up front, and 1 stud missing in back. not the end of the world i suppose, and despite the cautions, i still ride them pretty hard because i find it's really difficult for me to be on a bike and not ride hard.

if i can get two winter seasons out of them, i'll consider it a wash, anything more would be bonus material.
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My third winter with the same pair of Schwalbe Marathon Winters (although I only installed the front tire so far this winter around January 15. Been putting off putting the back tire on until we get a real storm)

I am missing about 5-7 on each tire
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Old 02-02-12, 03:51 PM
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You can get Nokian replacement studs from Amazon and fortunately they'll fit your marathon winters too. They're not the exact same thing. The replacement studs are more pointed but that shouldn't cause you too much trouble.
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I've got 3000-4000 miles on mine. Probably 5-10 studs missing on the pair. I try not to, but every once and a while I'll skid the tires on hard pavement. I always assume that's murder for the studs, and probably where the losses come from.
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You can get Nokian replacement studs from Amazon and fortunately they'll fit your marathon winters too. They're not the exact same thing. The replacement studs are more pointed but that shouldn't cause you too much trouble.
That's so strange. I would have to think that it would benefit Schwalbe to mail off some studs knowing that Nokian is willing to.
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not a place to need them as constantly, as you upper mid westerners.. And Nor easterners.
My 20 year old Nokians , still have no stud losses..

QBP stocks the Nokian studs and a tool to push them in..
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Originally Posted by paperbackbiker View Post
That's so strange. I would have to think that it would benefit Schwalbe to mail off some studs knowing that Nokian is willing to.
On it.
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