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Old 04-03-12, 01:04 AM
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My first GoPro Commute and I nearly get doored...

This is exactly the kind of thing that made me want a GoPro...


I thought that the car was going to pull up further (they always do, but then this happened).
There was no yelling, no cursing, just a very surprised cyclist, and car passenger.

No audio (it's a used camera, bad audio, but for $40, I'm not complaining)

Be Careful Out There.

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Old 04-03-12, 06:57 AM
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Not criticising you, but I think passing on the right in that situation was part of the problem.
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Originally Posted by Ridefreemc View Post
Not criticising you, but I think passing on the right in that situation was part of the problem.
This.

Except, I am criticizing you.

You can expect to get doored if you try to pull that stunt a lot.
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Yep your fault.
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Also take note, however, I would criticize the driver and passenger for unloading the vehicle in an unsafe manner, but they aren't available to take comment.
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Yeah, either you stop and wait (something cyclists don't like to do) or carefully pass on the left, hoping that the driver doesn't get out. Wait, is that the kind of van that has sliding doors on both sides? I think patience wins these situations.
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Never pass on the right.
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Yeah, either you stop and wait (something cyclists don't like to do) or carefully pass on the left, hoping that the driver doesn't get out. Wait, is that the kind of van that has sliding doors on both sides? I think patience wins these situations.
I can see passing on the left being an issue (I note that profstack did use the word "carefully") as well in this situation since there was a car/van stopped ahead and the driver to the rear could have pulled out to pass them at that point, as opposed to stopping and letting out where they did. Best to be patient at that point and let it sort out before moving through that. Parking lots and drop offs are only superceded in driver unpredictability (actually you can predict that they are not going to see you) by garage and yard sales.
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Never pass on the right.
Nothing wrong with passing on the right, it's legal in our state, just use caution and be very alert. All my incidents with motorists opening their doors on me was passing on their left.
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Nothing wrong with passing on the right, it's legal in our state, just use caution and be very alert. All my incidents with motorists opening their doors on me was passing on their left.
I probably should have qualified that with "Never pass a vehicle stopped in the lane on the right". Clearly someone was going to be coming out of the car on one side or another in that situation.
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Originally Posted by Ridefreemc View Post
I can see passing on the left being an issue (I note that profstack did use the word "carefully") as well in this situation since there was a car/van stopped ahead and the driver to the rear could have pulled out to pass them at that point, as opposed to stopping and letting out where they did. Best to be patient at that point and let it sort out before moving through that. Parking lots and drop offs are only superceded in driver unpredictability (actually you can predict that they are not going to see you) by garage and yard sales.
Yep. Treat it exactly like you would treat the situation if you were in a car. Since it appeared that multiple vehicles were stopping in the lane, it's a good guess that this was a school dropoff or something similar, which means people would be getting out of either side of the stopped vehicles. And kids are notorious for not checking behind them when they open doors.
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I probably should have qualified that with "Never pass a vehicle stopped in the lane on the right". Clearly someone was going to be coming out of the car on one side or another in that situation.
I even pass on the right of motor vehicles that are stopped stopped at a light, a large number our older bike lanes put me to the right of motorists at many controlled intersections.
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I even pass on the right of motor vehicles that are stopped stopped at a light, a large number our older bike lanes put me to the right of motorists at many controlled intersections.
Yeeeesssss.... but that is an entirely different situation than OP's....
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I knew this had to happen in the daylight...
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Originally Posted by Ridefreemc View Post
I can see passing on the left being an issue (I note that profstack did use the word "carefully") as well in this situation since there was a car/van stopped ahead and the driver to the rear could have pulled out to pass them at that point, as opposed to stopping and letting out where they did.

Correct, the Quick Drop area, where people are supposed to unload, is not directly behind the cabs (the vehicles to the right seen in the video), but about 20 feet further (where the car/van Ridefreemc mentioned was).


Originally Posted by Ridefreemc View Post
Best to be patient at that point and let it sort out before moving through that. Parking lots and drop offs are only superceded in driver unpredictability (actually you can predict that they are not going to see you) by garage and yard sales.
True, but I submit this:
811.490 Improper opening or leaving open of vehicle door; penalty.
(1) A person commits the offense of improper opening or leaving open a vehicle
door if the person does any of the following:
(a) Opens any door of a vehicle unless and until it is reasonably safe to do so
and it can be done without interference with the movement of traffic, or
with pedestrians and bicycles on sidewalks or shoulders .

(b) Leaves a door open on the side of a vehicle available to traffic, or to
pedestrians or bicycles on sidewalks or shoulders for a period of time
longer than necessary to load or unload passengers .
(2) The offense described in this section, improper opening or leaving open a
vehicle door, is a Class D traffic infraction
In retrospect, I think that the passenger was trying to catch the same train that I was hustling for.

Lesson learned: Leave home earlier, and I don't have to hustle for a train.

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Not criticising you, but I think passing on the right in that situation was part of the problem.
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Never pass on the right.
Bikes passing on the right of cars is legal in Oregon. The new Oregon passing on the right law went into effect on January 1, 2006 and provides
811.415 Unsafe passing on right; penalty.
(1) A person commits the offense of unsafe passing on
the right if the person:
(a) Drives a vehicle to overtake and pass upon the
right of another vehicle at any time not permitted
under this section .
(b) Drives a vehicle to overtake and pass upon the
right of another vehicle at any time by driving off
the paved portion of the highway .
(2) For purposes of this section, a person may drive a
vehicle to overtake and pass upon the right of another
vehicle under any of the following circumstances:
(a) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if:
(A) The overtaken vehicle is making or the driver has signaled an intention
to make a left turn;
(B) The paved portion of the highway is of sufficient width to allow two or
more lanes of vehicles to proceed lawfully in the same direction as
the overtaking vehicle; and
(C) The roadway ahead of the overtaking vehicle is unobstructed for
sufficient distance to permit passage by the overtaking vehicle to be
made in safety .
(b) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaken vehicle
is proceeding along a roadway in the left lane of two or more clearly
marked lanes allocated exclusively to vehicular traffic moving in the same
direction as the overtaking driver .
(c) Overtaking and passing upon the right is permitted if the overtaking vehicle
is a bicycle that may safely make the passage under the existing
conditions .
Now for those who think that they see a backup light on...

I rechecked the video, the vehicle to my right (a cab) had its brake or running lights on, not it's reverse light, and the car to the left (the one that nearly got me) didn't go into reverse either. What some might think they are seeing was the reflection of MiNewt 600 cordless (which I use for daylight safety) shining, and the video quality.

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Call me crazy, but I operate under the assumption that it's preferable to not be doored than it is to be able to say "But I passed legally!" through my broken teeth.
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I'm with everyone else. That was your fault. Did you signal that you were going to be passing? Even if you did, that is not even close to an ideal passing situation. I will say, one of the most important things about riding with a camera is watching yourself and learning how to be a better rider. My camera has helped my form, my line, and my courtesy and safety, both riding alone and in groups.
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It's a good thing that this happened, you and the passenger both learned a lesson and no one got hurt. Not saying you did anything wrong, the lesson for you is that the unexpected can happen, for the passenger it's to look to the rear before opening the door. Thanks for posting.
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Legal or not it, If you choose to put yourself in bad position then don't be surprised when bad things happen. You asked for it on that one. That move went against all my biking instincts.
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Definitely your fault. Furthermore, the car in front of the one in front of you stopped to let a passenger get out, it's safe to assume that the car behind it would follow suit where it stopped since the distance is near negligible.

The car in the front braking, stopping, and then unloading, should have been a red flag to you that the car behind it might do the same. If I was in that scenario I wouldn't have passed left or right. I would have slowed down, waited for the car in front to move on and look at the reaction of the second car.

Passing on the left in this scenario, especially in a drop off location isn't very smart in my book. You're passing on the driver side, yet in a drop off location where is the driver looking? Right at the person they just dropped off. On the right.
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Call me crazy, but I operate under the assumption that it's preferable to not be doored than it is to be able to say "But I passed legally!" through my broken teeth.
For me this was a unique situation, I've never encountered it before. I agree it's better not to be doored.

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I'm with everyone else. That was your fault. Did you signal that you were going to be passing? Even if you did, that is not even close to an ideal passing situation. I will say, one of the most important things about riding with a camera is watching yourself and learning how to be a better rider. My camera has helped my form, my line, and my courtesy and safety, both riding alone and in groups.
"That was your fault. Did you signal that you were going to be passing?". With that logic, any cyclist who is passed by a car, and right hooked could be found at fault.
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I want a camera for my bike that only costs $40 too.

I see some interesting things riding around in Saginaw, MI...
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I want a camera for my bike that only costs $40 too.

I see some interesting things riding around in Saginaw, MI...

Wish Granted (almost)


https://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html


This is my next camera choice (but I have to be certain of it's water resistance).

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It's a good thing that this happened, you and the passenger both learned a lesson and no one got hurt. Not saying you did anything wrong, the lesson for you is that the unexpected can happen, for the passenger it's to look to the rear before opening the door. Thanks for posting.
That is perhaps the best comment yet to this thread.

I learned from it, the passenger and the driver learned from it, nobody was hurt, and it's a teachable moment.

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Thinking about this one. Lol. I really like my action cam i got for 50 dollars with all the mounts and such. This one looks a bit more cheesed out but I love the fact it takes aaa batteries. Which means endless shooting life.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sports-Mini-...item2c636c3c58
Mine is simply on a USB charger but it does last about 2+ hours on full record mode.
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K'Tesh, I may have to try that little gadget out! Thanks for the links!
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