ottawa_adam

Not true. There is no such thing as a "One-metre rule" in Ontario. It's a rule of thumb. In Ontario, cyclists must ride as close as practicable to the right edge of the road. However, we are entitled to a full lane of traffic when required.

ottawa_adam

I'm an avid disc golfer and this has caused a lot of banter on the prominent disc golf site. Of course, a lot of laymen are advocating for the rights of motor vehicle drivers.

I must say, I'm rather embarrassed to be associated with people of that mindset.

Check it out for yourself: https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums...ad.php?t=60902

JimCanuck

800 numbers work in USA/Mexico/Canada unless you do funky extension codes ... Like Germany 01090-001-800- or France 0800 99 00 11 or Greece 00 800 1311 etc

Jim

JimCanuck

https://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pub...ction3.0.shtml

Which is referencing this:

Which in turn, "as close as practicable to the right edge of the road" includes for both cars and anything else for that matter not driving over every sewer at the edge of the road as they can be a safety hazard, and there is no room to maneuver with the closer you are to the curb, hence the 1 meter guideline used by the MTO, and carried over to both automotive driving and cycling.

It is also the distance the city of Toronto has been installing the new "arrow" bike lanes with, the tip of each arrow pointing forward is about a meter away from the edge of the curb. To comply with the reasoning that going over sewer grates and hugging the curb in general can be a hazard.

And yes we can take up the entire lane when required, I was not suggesting otherwise, was just mentioning hugging the curb over all is a bad idea, which is why I like our guidelines here.

Jim

ottawa_adam

You are correct, but I insist that it is a guideline and not a rule. I feel it's important to make that distinction. It might be a matter of semantics, but we are likely in agreement on road use.

Bigdaddy021970

I read the whole thing. Some posts are pretty hateful towards cyclists. Of course I guess the same could be said about our forum sometimes. Oh well it was fun to read anyway. Thanks for the link.

JimCanuck

That we do.

Jim

SweetNightmare

Jesus! Disk golfers are hateful! Remind me never to try disk golf. Arguing even that bikes shouldn't be on the road because they don't pay for gas and the tax that goes with. What about horse mounted cops or bicycle cops?

Oh wait, I don't think anyone besides Texas has horseback cops. Still, bike cops.

Anyways, why punish us for their stupid driving and being smart about not spending hundreds on gas. The SO filled up the other day, and it cost him sixty bucks! He doesn't even drive a gas guzzler!

ottawa_adam

Please don't think that all disc golfers feel that way.

After all, there is a lot of hate generated on most forums.

Disc golf is an amazing sport, btw.

SweetNightmare

Still, dear lord! That's a lot of hate for just being asked to share the road.

Ridefreemc

I read a few pages of the disc forum and saw some pretty reasonable responses - rather well thought out.

Digital_Cowboy

I hate to say that I'm not surprised by that response. Or rather lack there of.

Digital_Cowboy

I like that idea.

Digital_Cowboy

One can only hope, one can only hope. I'm sure (or at least I hope so) that by now that they realize that their employee was the aggressor and not the cyclist. And that they owe not only the cyclist in the incident an apology but the cycling community an apology as well.

Digital_Cowboy

St. Pete has some. I've seen them in the downtown area.

bored117 

Guys... since I work in Ad industry... here is my suggestion. If you want to boycott with review... on google, insiderpages, yelp, yellowbooks, local paper, citygrid, etc... those, these people usually don't have control and can't delete the reviews on their whims. Just my 2c. It would be a lot more effective than boycotting in traditional means or prank calling 800 number (which I can't agree with).

CB HI

The OP video has been made private.

dynodonn 

Interesting, one can only speculate in that if OP has received some sort of legal cease and desist in showing the video to the public.

CB HI

Good possibility.

Also, seems the driver of the van is named Scott and Scott lied about being the owner.

If I were the owner, Scott would have been fired already and an apology posted for his actions, rather than a cover-up.

CB HI

Calling the shop to let them know that you do not appreciate the drivers dangerous actions is far from prank calling.

monsterpile

Its also possible the poster of the video has gotten enough negative attention that they decided to make the video private to limit more people from responding negatively.

PatrickGSR94

Ah man, I didn't get to see it.

I actually live right on the edge of a fairly highly-rated DG course according to that DG site. I walk to the park with my son several times a week and cross the course, and I'm always amazed at how many people are out there playing. I've never tried it myself.

CB HI

Most of the post by the disc golf guys ranged from good to very ignorant, but none were way over the top until this guy:
Way to represent your group BrotherDave
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/member.php?u=3532

Digital_Cowboy

How is calling to voice one's displeasure at the actions of one of their employees and their constant deleting of any and all negative comments on what happened "prank calling?"

I may have to do that myself as for <Sarcasm>some strange reason</Sarcasm> they haven't responded to my e-mail.

How mature is it of the company to not respond to the concerns of their potential customers, as well as deleting all "negative" posts about what one of their employees actions?

Digital_Cowboy

Agreed, given that not only was the employee driving a company vehicle but it appears that said employee was on the clock and engaged in some sort of company related activity Scott getting fired would be appropriate.

And I agree that the company needs to issue an apology to both the cyclist in the video as well as to the cycling community.