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Old 05-16-12, 08:38 PM
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Walkers in NYC bike lanes?

I was just using Google street view to plan out a little Central Park kid trailer outing (please see post there if you have exp. trialling a kid around NYC).

I was amazed by the number of walkers/joggers/strollers/razor scooters shown in the street view imagery in the dedicated bike lane on Central Drive. And there are adjacent sidewalks --big ones, mostly empty-- its not like there's no place else to walk.

So my question I guess is, is this normal for NYC or at least Central Park? And as follow up, what's wrong with all those people?
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Old 05-16-12, 08:53 PM
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It is constant, it is everywhere. Use your bell. Yell if they have headphones in. It's just how it is.

I'm not sure about Central Park, but in Prospect Park cyclists actually use the "car" lanes at most times, and peds are supposed to use the bike lanes. Only when the park is open to car traffic (during rush hour I think?) do bikes use the "bike" lanes.

Also, are you only going to use the trailer in the park? I don't know if I'd personally use a kid trailer in the city. I've seen people do it, but it makes me nervous. Just in the park would be fine.
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Old 05-16-12, 09:08 PM
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To be determined. I don't need to venture more than 2-3 blocks out of the park on the front or back end of the trip so walking it on the sidewalks is definitely an option. Probably some on the fly assessment of things. I'm looking for just this kind of feedback over in Rec & Fam, so thanks. If I have to confine the actual cycling to within the park it shouldn't spoil the day.

Asked the guy at the LBS when trailer shopping if the pricier model was any safer or just more comfy/bells and whistles. His response, a shrug and something like "well, you're pulling your kid behind your bike in the road, so..." trailing off. He clearly wasn't sold on the safety of the thing.
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Originally Posted by lostarchitect View Post
It is constant, it is everywhere. Use your bell. Yell if they have headphones in. It's just how it is.
We have a lot rec paths and sharrows around me where I'm used to that sort of thing. But the one road I use with dedicated bike lanes and sidewalks it actually works for the most part. Cars in the car lane, bikes, long boarders and double parked cars in the bike lane, and everyone else on the sidewalk.

I guess I figured they'd all be like that. Now I have something else to be thankful for.
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Old 05-17-12, 12:15 AM
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Once I was riding with a friend, using bicycle lane in my town. We stopped on a red light and a proud mother was standing in front of us, with a child in a stroller. So, as we were standing behind her, i start loudly explaining to my friend:
"You know that in Japan, there is a special police unit on horses, with samurai swords who's task is to cut heads of people who use bicycle paths for walking?". The look on the woman's face: priceless!
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Old 05-17-12, 04:03 AM
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Yeah. Don't get me started. People use bike lanes as sidewalks here. And the worst part is that most believe they have the right to do so.
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Old 05-17-12, 06:48 AM
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I can't understand why they use the bike lanes on the West Side Greenway in Manhattan even in the areas where there is well paved asphalt path immediately adjacent. I wouldn't want to walk with bicycles flying by if I had any alternate.
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Old 05-17-12, 07:24 AM
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Same here. Even when the sidewalk next to them is empty.
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Old 05-17-12, 09:29 AM
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Well, they think that the asphalt is softer on their knees than the concrete of the sidewalk. They're delusional of course, but an Airzound blast takes care of most bike-path joggers.
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Old 05-17-12, 09:45 AM
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When I lived in Savannah, nobody used the sidewalks. People were always out in the street or on the sidewalk.

I could never figure out if there was a reason for this, or if the people in Savannah were just especially stupid.
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Old 05-17-12, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pennstater View Post
I can't understand why they use the bike lanes on the West Side Greenway in Manhattan even in the areas where there is well paved asphalt path immediately adjacent. I wouldn't want to walk with bicycles flying by if I had any alternate.
I honestly think they're just not thinking. They see a path and their lizard brain says "walk" so they do. They don't even register that there is a sidewalk five feet away.
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Old 05-17-12, 09:59 AM
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No one but the most stubborn cyclists use the bike lane in CP. It's too crowded w/ joggers, rollerbladers, walkers, pets, etc. TBH, I run in the bike lane cuz it's easier on my feet than the empty walking path on the other side of the wooden barrier. Cyclists use the roadway or hug the stripped part of the bike lane. When I ride through, I don't use the bike lane much and actually stick to the right lane. It's a popular park so be mindful of others and share the road.

As for the bike lanes on streets like 1st and 2nd Ave., those turn into sidewalks in the evenings when pedestrians just walk into the bike lane w/o looking, usually stepping into the path of a cyclist. When it gets that ridiculous, I just ride w/ car traffic because it's much safer.
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Nobody Walks in L.A.
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Originally Posted by Slaninar View Post
Once I was riding with a friend, using bicycle lane in my town. We stopped on a red light and a proud mother was standing in front of us, with a child in a stroller. So, as we were standing behind her, i start loudly explaining to my friend:
"You know that in Japan, there is a special police unit on horses, with samurai swords who's task is to cut heads of people who use bicycle paths for walking?". The look on the woman's face: priceless!
Pictures, please. That would have been a look that I would have loved to have seen.
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Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
Yeah. Don't get me started. People use bike lanes as sidewalks here. And the worst part is that most believe they have the right to do so.
I'd like to know why they believe that as well

Originally Posted by pennstater View Post
I can't understand why they use the bike lanes on the West Side Greenway in Manhattan even in the areas where there is well paved asphalt path immediately adjacent. I wouldn't want to walk with bicycles flying by if I had any alternate.
Or even walk in the road when there is a nice (and as has been said) EMPTY sidewalk right next to the road that they could/should be walking on. The next group are those who when walking on roads that do not have a sidewalk why don't they walk against traffic? I see too many folks walking with traffic.

Originally Posted by locolobo13 View Post
Same here. Even when the sidewalk next to them is empty.
Agreed, it just doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Nobody Walks in L.A.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Nobody Walks in L.A.
(see my location)
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Nobody Walks in L.A.
At least somebody somewhere is walking. I read a book recently that claimed New Yorkers were the greenest population in North America.

Sounds like.
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