I've decided to stick with old reliable Guard Alaska bear spray # 9. Its worked on a black bear while camping in the Adirondacks, Trying to steal my food bag. If it works on a bear. It should have no problems handling a pack of pissed off Coy dogs.

That's what I'm talkin' about....
Dogs are smart enough to learn chasing bikes = pain

I would hate to use this on a family pet, If I had to? yes I would. I also know that dogs that chases down cyclist have owners that should be pepper sprayed! Like I said before. I use Pepper spray for self defense against mostly Coy dogs (A wild dog).

Coy dogs Have had the instinct to chase for many years. I don't want them to lose there freedom. I just don't want them trying to chase me.

Let them be free.

The Vexor is 15 million SHU before they mix it. They even say on their site that the SHU is meaningless. Fox does pretty good but if your using stream it takes awhile for it to do any good on someone wearing glasses. I use to sell nothing but Fox although i've tried many, if not all brands. I had a few friends wear safety glasses and hold their breath and close their eyes to try to find a stream that would work as i got tired of the blowbackfrom oc cone and foggers. The Fox would burn their face and take about 45 seconds to shut their eyes. I also tried DPS. Most of you probably never heard of it, but it's got almost twice as much pepper in it as Fox and the the Carrier is Perchlorethyene-it opens up the pores and breaks down the oils of the skin. It had about the same results although testers did say it was a little hotter and took alot longer to decontaminate them. I also tried V4"s Shotgun Stream by ETGI. It starts out as a stream and at about 6ft starts to spread apart into a shotgun splatter, At about 15-20ft it covers an area about 2ft across. Every tester said immediately they couldnt breathe and couldnt open their eyes and asked if they could have rushed me they said their was no way. The weird thing was they all also said it was much more intense than even the Vexor which i've tried in the past and this company claims only 1 million SHU. I also testify to this as i try it on my arms and count the seconds it takes to work and intensity and the V4 is absolute instant burning with the Fox and DPS coming in a tie for 2nd taking about 15 seconds. Another awsome thing is, this stuff is a real confidence builder, not only because it works but because of almost no blowback unless there's some serious wind and because every bottle i have tried has sprayed head on of at least 23ft and just under 35ft if arching the bottle.

I think it may be illegal to use this stuff on humans. I'm pretty sure bear spray is. Probably depends on state. However, I thought I read that bear spray could actually cause tissue damage on humans.

Maybe, but I KNOW that outfits driven by *******s can cause tissue damage, and bone damage, and bike damage. When cagers yell at me for riding on the right side of the white line or spit at me, aor throw **** at me, I tell where they can go.... So far none have stopped to challenge me. If they do, they will get a car full of counter assault bear spray ( I live in the same town where the stuff is made).
I've had it with the asssholes of the world making our commute spookier than it has to be. I've especially had it with the kids.. spitting, swerving, making mulitple passes, and throwing ****....
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Who dug up this moldy old thread? It's 9 months old for Pete's sake. It's one of the worst threads ever seen here!
Please shoot this old thread full of pepper spray and hope it dies or at least goes away!

Whooo hooooo!!! I gotta pick me up a few bottles of that. Thanks for the tip!

Koffee

I think you mean PETA :)

A friend of mine was solo backpacking in Alaska (Denali National Park). As per sensible, he had his mega can of Bear-b-Gone (ok, I made up the name, but it's OC spray with 10% active ingredient) clipped to his shoulder strap for easy grabbing.

Somehow, while taking off or putting on his pack, he managed to blast himself in the face from just inches away. He said the pain can't be quantified in English-- like a million bees with acid for venom stinging him was one way he tried to put it. The spray went directly up his nose, in his eyes, into his mouth, his ears... he stumbled in agony to a nearby creek and dunked his head into this glacial runoff stream for 2 hours until the swelling went down enough for him to see. Poor blighter!
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What is that pepper spray that also marks the attacker with a colored dye? Haven't seen it here in the US

Theres quite a few that have the ultraviolet dye but very few departments have a light to detect it and it's not good for oc because it separates itself while in the can, thats why most require you shake the can first.

Yes, it will stop a dog. I don't think it hurts them too badly though...more just stuns them.

I had the occasion to use Halt. I live way out in the country, and some of the stupid rednecks down here let their dogs run around the "back 40" and chase anything that comes by on the road. Well, one day when commuting home from work, I had a dog come out of no-where and start chasing me. He was--what I thought at the time--trying to nip at my feet. I tried to out pedal the pooch, but it wasn't working. I remembered a defensive move that I read in a book one time. Stop, dismount, and put your bike between you and the dog as a barrier. I did just that, and the dog lunged at me...(now at this point, I was even past the owner's assumed property line...up to the next house). I carried a can of Halt on my handlebar, so I reached for it and sprayed the dog right in the face...I think some of it even went in his mouth. He didn't yipe, but immediately stopped the agressive behavior and backed up. I got on my bike and pedaled like h*ll away from him.

One more point, I sense some of the posts being sympathetic to the dogs that are sprayed by this stuff. What's this about? ! ? If a dog comes lunging after you, I think you have ever right to take whatever action you can do defend yourself. Heck, if I could of smacked the dog with my heavy commuter bike, I probably would have. I don't like to harm dogs anymore than the next person, but you just never know how a running/nipping dog is going to act. But I blame dogs like this on the owners.

Was hoping to find something that sprays red paint in the shape of an A for all to see. JK. Thanks for the info. I ordered one today.

Lol, can you imagine? "Wait a sec, Attacker. I just gotta shake this before I spray you in the eyes!"

Koffee