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Whistles are for emergencies, bells to get someones attention. Can you imagine if there were whistles at the service counter instead of a bell? Yikes!
I just put a bell on my bike and noticed even the squirrels get out of the way faster than if I yell. |
Well if you build a small steam power plant, you can run the whistle off of that..
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Ha ha... You dont need steam, get a fox 40 sonik blast CMG whistle they exceed 120 dB with very little effort.
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Originally Posted by Trek_geek
(Post 14355901)
I was very saddened to read about the 80 year old Northern VA women hit and killed on a bike path. Part of my commute is on a path and through a neighborhood without sidewalks. There is substantial foot traffic heading for the METRO and VRE station where I start my ride. I am having a hard time finding a bell for my 31.8mm handlebars on my Trek 520. I haven't been very impressed with the small, Incredibells I have tried at my LBS. I want a larger diameter, deeper toned bell that can be heard. None seem to fit the 31.8mm bars. I am thinking about going back to hanging a whistle around my neck like I did back in the 80s when I first started riding. Thoughts?
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Bell. People know what a bike bell sound is. They hear the bell, their brain says "Bike. Move over." They know you are about to pass 'em. Ding it a few times and they can sometimes tell how close you are and fast you might be going.
Shout "on your left!" Their brain says, "Left. Huh? What? Turn and walk left i guess." Hear a whistle and my brain says, "ball is down. play is over." or maybe "Who is blowin' that whistle? Turn and look." For me, the bell is A #1 solution to riding on the MUP. |
But when riding in traffic I think something like the Airzound would be best. I should probably get one.
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
(Post 14435534)
the Airzound would be best
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Originally Posted by daredevil
(Post 14437894)
If you want to be annoying it would be. Personally, if someone came up from behind me and let loose with that thing I'd want to deck em. Use a bell and/or your voice. No sense in being an arse. Just yield to the foot traffic, it's our duty whether we like it or not.
Do you try to get out and "deck" anyone who honks their car born if you make a mistake while driving? |
Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
(Post 14438152)
Did you read my post?
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Originally Posted by daredevil
(Post 14438158)
nope, sorry, had a one track mind going on an airzound and a bike path. I still wouldn't screw with an airzound even in traffic for the same reasons. To me, it's like hollering at somebody.
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Originally Posted by BijouBikeNoob
(Post 14513743)
You wouldn't want to holler at someone about to run you over with a 2 ton death machine? Personally, I'd offend someone with a loud noise rather than die.
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That coffee cup bell is too cute
Originally Posted by RoadTire
(Post 14405291)
I just picked a bell up yesterday because of threads like this and potential issues of yelling "....left..." means "move left" to some people. But I'm kinda digging this one - just need a sherpa to fill my cup when I ring...
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Bell, I use the incredibell but it fits on my bars. I give it a flick or two just enough to advise peds that I'm passing. My local bike path is actually pretty good about knowing to stay to the right but here and there we get into the head on games of chicken.
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I think the Incredibell works great on the MUP. A simple "ding" normally gets the attention of whoever needs to hear it. And, when it doesn't, I just slow down and make a safe pass. Riding isn't about trying to beat a meaningless time. IMO, there's no excuse for me to be in an accident on an MUP. Like on my motorcycle on the road, I need to know where my escape path is or I need to be riding slow enough to get through whatever congestion is nearby.
I hate it when I see cyclist ripping past little kids or the elderly while yelling "ON YOUR LEFT!!!". They are idiots that think that they need to fly down the MUP at high-speeds. No common sense whatsoever. Total chumps. |
Originally Posted by alan s
(Post 14376842)
Some people, especially older ones, are deaf or partially deaf, and cannot hear a bell.
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Originally Posted by threecarjam
(Post 14379430)
Crane bells - springy/jangly, hammer-strike (loudest!), goofy trigger-style, they've got them all.
And really, a bell is not a big investment - get two different kinds, keep the one you like best, and give the other to a bell-less friend. For real, reading the original post again, the hammer-strike Crane bell seems like the one to get. |
I use a pretty cheap ding-ing bell that I can hit a few times. All but headphone zombies seem to move on the MUP... Although I've noticed small children usually move the wrong way, I always slow down and wait for them to figure it out if I have to warn a family, parents seem to not keep an eye on their kids and let them wander into bicycle traffic around here.
A whistle seems to be an awkward thing to have to reach and grab and I'm not sure people are as well 'trained' to react to a whistle and assume it's a bike trying to pass. A bell seems to work well enough in Japan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc :) |
Originally Posted by daredevil
(Post 14513758)
Are you saying it's gonna catch their attention and save you?
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Originally Posted by Big Lebowski
(Post 14515366)
I hate it when I see cyclist ripping past little kids or the elderly while yelling "ON YOUR LEFT!!!". They are idiots that think that they need to fly down the MUP at high-speeds. No common sense whatsoever. Total chumps.
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Originally Posted by BijouBikeNoob
(Post 14518076)
Disagree. I appreciate when someone passing me alerts me to their presence, and that is exactly the right thing to yell out. It's better than not being aware of them at all and wandering into their line of movement. WTH wants to be involved in a high collision hug with a speedy bike. The bicyclists have every right to be on a MUP as much as anyone else - same as the slower recreational riders, walkers, joggers, elderly persons, mommies with jogging carriages, and dog walkers. Hence "multi-use."
I only ride the MUP at higher speeds when I see no one else in front of me. If I come up on anyone, regardless of what age, I will slow down. |
Originally Posted by BijouBikeNoob
(Post 14518035)
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. If a car is about to squish you, chances are they don't see you. A honk is going to get their attention and I think most people would check and right themselves. I've had it happen to me while driving a car. I couldn't see a car in my blind spot while changing lanes, and when they honked me I immediately checked myself and went back to my original lane, because I didn't want to get in an accident. Honking does work.
btw, wear a head mounted mirror and you won't have any blind spots. Just an idea. ;) |
Originally Posted by daredevil
(Post 14519348)
btw, wear a head mounted mirror and you won't have any blind spots. Just an idea. ;)
The point was, it doesn't really matter if it's a car or a bicycle loudly honking at you - if you're a car driver, you're going to notice it. |
I thought about this a lot when I started commuting. I went when an air horn because I can control the sound at any given time. This was the best thing to go with in my situation.
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Originally Posted by BijouBikeNoob
(Post 14543501)
You're suggesting I wear a head mounted mirror while driving a car? Because that was what I was referring to -
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