1. I'm not German.
2. No one rational expected Germany to beat Spain. Perhaps Italy, but not Spain as they haven't lost a knock-out game since 2006 (2 EuroCups - 2008/2012 and 1 World Cup - 2010)
3. I don't think that filming is bad per se ... so don't use what I stated out of context.
4. If the OP was think of posting a thread about hitting 700 miles on the bike AND he crashed at 699.9, where do you think his helmet-mounted cam was looking ... my money would be on the odometer so that he/she could watch it rotate from 699.9 to 700.
5. That's also my guess as to why we haven't seen any video.
6. But, whatever, side with cyclist by default.

I wouldn't have left without getting his insurance details, even if you don't file an initial claim. I know both of you were just probably being nice, but better safe than sorry.

There was a study showing a correlation between people using video cameras on their bikes and increased crashes, collisions with car, bikes and peds, and near misses. Had something to do with a heightened sense of invincibility. I'll post the link when I find it.

This is what I would do also, never know what could come up later.

All too funny, with the addition a video cams, I still have not been in a collision with a car, or increased the number of near misses with cars, bikes, and peds. If anything, the near misses have diminished somewhat since I learned from reviewing my videos that I needed to change my lane positioning ever so slightly.

My thoughts were not on the odometer. If I wanted I could easily set the odo to 699 and ride a mile to get the rollover. It just happened to occur at 699.9. I value my life more than a number on a computer that is not 100% accurate.

The reason I have not posted the vid is because I am waiting for there to be a resolution. I have read many times on these threads to not post details or anything else regarding an accident for fear of an attorney lurking and using my statements against me if it comes to that.

I started the thread because I was curious what other have done regarding their SO and an accident. I did not NOT start this thread asking for fellow cyclists to take sides. That is none of our jobs. However it ends up is how it is going to end up.

Once the matter is resolved I will be more than happy to post the video.

Anyone who takes issue with folks wearing a camera...I am glad I have the video. I have already learned ways that maybe I can be a little safer in my riding. Not only with this incident but with other rides I have done. It helps with recall in how a situation happened (see some of my other posts on the topic). When I told the insurance lady yesterday I had a video and she said it should make things much easier is getting a resolution. Was that my purpose? NO. Is it a benefit of filming my rides? YES? I don't ride reckless or take more chances because I have a camera on my head. I forget about it until I get home. It does not sit on my helmet and encourage me to do unsafe things just because it is running. As evidenced by my incident on Tuesday, the camera is not going to prevent an accident. It merely documents it. After reviewing the video there are things I didn't remember because I was still in a haze from the shock of getting hit. The camera worked as that reminder. For example, when I took his number down I mistyped his phone number, jittery fingers or whatever, I reviewed the camera and got the correct number and called him. I would be screwed without it. Just sayin'

:lol: at post-purchase rationalization

however, i remain interested in how this turns out

I've never been hit so can't speak from experience. That said if you were driving to work and were involved in a collision with another vehicle would she put a veto on you driving to work? It's easy to focus on confirming preconceived ideas (cycling is dangerous, you got hit, which proves cycling is dangerous) where an all-but identical situation confirms equally preconceived ideas (driving is safe, you got hit, unlucky dude, get back in the car and be more careful).

Just one comment that seems to be a recurring theme where collisions with cars are concerned, and that's to make sure you really are OK. You don't want to be too quick to sign statements saying you're perfectly OK and then find a couple of months down the line your hands don't quite work as they should or some such.

It's a good call not to go into all the details, so if it's 100% clear you haven't taken any personal injuries you may feel comfortable making a formal declaration to that effect.

huh? What do you mean?

Glad you told your wife relatively soon. You need to do that no matter what.
When I told my wife about getting broadsided by a Jeep, I immediately started talking about fixing up my old hybrid for a commuter until I could settle with the driver's insurance company. Ceasing to commute never entered the conversation.
She wasn't real sympathetic with my amazing bruise and hematoma, but she accepts my own risk assessment.
Our kids are grown, so it's a different situation, but you've got to be upfront with your partner.

I agree on not saying, " I'm fine. I'm not hurt." I didn't even know it at the time, but I smacked my ankle in my accident. The bruise didn't show up for almost 2weeks after. I hope the video helps your case and glad you're ok.

Just to clarify I never said I was not hurt. Just that "I was OK", implying that I was not dead or severely wounded. I do have some scrapes/cuts and aches and pains and I am monitoring them and if need be will see a doctor but at this point I don't see a need for it but if the need arises and things look or get worse then I will not hesitate to see a doctor.

I have learned my lesson on calling the police and getting the insurance info for sure. It is turning into a pain in the @$$ but it will work itself out I am sure. Will keep anyone that is interested up to date on how things develop.

1. not calling police
2. not getting checked out

:facepalm:

do you really have a family?

What is a doctor going to do? Point out the injuries I do have and say, "Yup, your cut there". They are not gonna do x-rays, MRIs CAT scans just because a guy walks in and says he was hit by a car. If the symptoms warrant it then they would but not just because a guy wants it done. I already told my insurance the injuries I am aware of now and let them know I am monitoring my body looking for signs of any new pains. I told them I would notify them if I experience any other aches or pains. They were fine with that scenario.

I really do have a family. What are you getting at?

Getting hit/tapped by a car is un avoidable if you ride in traffic, someday and someway it's going to happen, it's a matter of being mentally prepared for it. After being hit by at least 10 cars in my years on my various bikes, some lost to cars, I do as mentioned before I look for reasons I may have been hit and do what I can to avoid that condition that favored me getting tagged by the car.

My wife and daughter get tired of me bringing up and pointing out situations where getting hit by a car was a high probabilty in a given situation. So far my daughter has avoided a couple close calls from my advice and for me that makes my experience of getting hit worth all the pain and headache.

It's all about how you prepare for it mentally...

@acidfast7 I looked at a few of the threads you posted. You seem so concerned with me having a video camera running and the mileage my odometer was when I got hit. I noticed that you seem to post lost of photos, particularly the 50 mile ride where you happened to notice you passed 1000km.

How is that any different from what I was doing with my camera and my bike computer?

Does the fact that my odometer was at 699.9 miles have any part in the accident?
Answer: NO. Why not you may ask. If it did then where are my videos of 100 through 600 miles?

Why is 700 so special? Answer: It's not. Just an observation and odd coincidence that I got wrecked at 699.9. Nothing more.

Do I have a photo or video of when my car rolled to 100k miles or 200k miles? Nope! Why not? Answer: I am not a big milestone kinda guy like that. When I was going to post about the 700 miles being surpassed it was just going to be that I was happy to have ridden 700 miles since March not save the odometer video for posterity sake. If I wanted a video of the mileage I would have worn the chest strap to make sure I caught the, in your mind, ever so great moment. I can barely see the computer with the camera when the camera is mounted on my helmet.

True that! I knew it was a possibility that I would get hit and tried to prepare myself mentally for it. I also tried to prepare my wife but seeing as how she was not the one riding she didn't have to face that fact everyday. It would be a kiss followed by a "ride safe" in the morning as I left. I was seeing possible accidents happening on the road all day and doing my best to avoid them. I was not able to avoid this one but handled it in the best way I can. My wife is a little more apprehensive about it but she understands now, I think.

We have had the car vs. bike death likelihood several times in the last 2 days. I even asked her cousin, an ER nurse, how many car accident victims she sees. She said, "Lots!' I asked about bike accident victims, "She said not many." I then asked the wrong timed joke and asked if they take them straight to the morgue. She laughed and my wife didn't find it funny at all. I have a sick sense of humor.

What did your Lawyer say? get any compensation from the drivers Insurance company?

or did you not get a statement and documentation at the time? PD report?

Well, one of the things the doctor will do is mental state assessment. Humans are very bad at noticing that they've injured their brain and acting irrationally.

So you actually go back and watch all your commutes? How in the world do you have time for that? It sounds a tad weird to me.

I know I have not stated any injuries I sustained but let me say I didn't hit my head in the accident.

Not much time is needed, with the software that I have, just one click of the mouse I can stop and start at any point of the video, bypass whatever I deem unnecessary, and get right to the heart to the matter. As I posted earlier, sports teams have been reviewing game events for many decades now, I'm sure that many in sports would not even consider it weird.

You want to hear something even better, thanks to even cheaper, larger capacity external hard drives, I have all my commutes archived.

Just the "highlights" right? If something sticks out in my head I'll go back and review it. Close calls mainly, getting buzzed by a car, etc.

Commuting isn't a sport though. It's just transportation. To me it seems very much like strapping a camera to your head and recording everything you do all day and then storing and reviewing that every night. I could perhaps see having a 30 minute buffer thing so in the event of any sort of accident you would have the last 30 minutes of your ride, but even that seems like expecting to be hit. To me biking is no different than taking my car or the bus to get somewhere, other than the fact that I like it better. If I sprain an ankle getting off the bus, or someone dings my car, which are both far more likely than me having a bike accident if the last 40 years are anything to go by, then I wouldn't expect to have a video of that. Maybe if we, the bikers, didn't treat biking so differently from other activities, maybe others wouldn't either. Including your wife.

If the commute is uneventful then there's basically no reviewing done on my part, and the video is archived for chronological purposes. I would treat commuting as any other activity, but with the advent of smaller, better quality, less expensive video cameras, and along with number of aggressive/dangerous motorists over the years, videoing had become a viable option.

Yes, close passes are the first to be reviewed, but many I now consider minor, especially when one has had some really close passes (mirror over bar end mirror variety). Today,most of the reviews are of numerous videos of the urban landscape that I commute through and how much change has taken place from when I first started videoing.

it was a ride on a 2000-mile long MUP that doesn't allow autos

:lol:

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But this whole thread is weird. People getting hit by cars and seemingly being more worried about how to manage to not scare the wife (so that they can ride again, which seems a tad selfish), rather than getting medically checked out. People filming commutes, re-watching and chronologically storing them like a professional sports team. Personally, I'd rather just save the time and not deal with the hassle. Also, a lot of post-purchase rationalization for cameras, what are these people ... wanna-be Major League Commuter (MLC) superstars. Perhaps, I'm just accustomed to dealing with more logical people who just want to have a bike replace an auto and not deal with all the extra crap that seems important here.

Do you ever use the video to report aggressive drivers? I would think that would be a good use of it since you actually had proof. I know around here they are doing a huge campaign to get people to report aggressive drivers.

Its a tool my friend. For example, if you got hit and it caused brain damange and you could not remember anything. Or if you got hit and killed. Gives your loved one evidence that could help out. In my area, we have one of the highest hit and run rates in the US. I do not want to burdon myself, my wife or my family.

I get your point and respect it but when it comes to commuting, it is another tool to use.

You can use the video, also, to track patterns in driving, areas where you ride, and learn from mistakes.