Trade my Trek 520?
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This is a good point too--which goes back to: my first post: if the OP did what was best for his/her cycling needs--no regrets and congratulations.
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The main thing about steel, is that you can sandblast it and paint it over and over again. Each time is quite capable of looking better than the last time. You can upgrade to better components after each paint job. The bike will both look and feel like a new bike. You could go on and on like that for decades.
You simply can't do that with aluminum....
In ten years or less, that Escape will be on its way out, while the Trek 520, will just be getting its second breath!
You simply can't do that with aluminum....
In ten years or less, that Escape will be on its way out, while the Trek 520, will just be getting its second breath!
My father-in-law left me a 1970 Raleigh Sport that's still a rideable machine. In fact, it's more than merely rideable...that's like damning it w/faint praise. It's a solid bike my wife and I use for people who come to stay at our cottage on which to make short forays around the rural area. Everyone loves the bike who rides it. Beyond routine maintenence, new tires and brake pads it's the same as it was over 40 years ago.
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Naaah, not toughness just insight.
The LBS knew the OP didn't know/didn't care the "value" either financial or simple bike porn of the 520. LBS had the advantage entire time. OP was teased/offered something new for something old. In bartering/trading: whenever someone does this you usually have something pretty unique and maybe want to hold on.
supply/demand
The LBS initiates a Giant (common) for a 520 (uncommon compared to the Giant).
The LBS can get the Giant all day long so the Giant was not a loss. The Giant's financial value apparently is insignificant compared to ownership of the 520.
...so is the 520 value $500? Has the 520 appreciated?
I find the deal fascinating.
The LBS knew the OP didn't know/didn't care the "value" either financial or simple bike porn of the 520. LBS had the advantage entire time. OP was teased/offered something new for something old. In bartering/trading: whenever someone does this you usually have something pretty unique and maybe want to hold on.
supply/demand
The LBS initiates a Giant (common) for a 520 (uncommon compared to the Giant).
The LBS can get the Giant all day long so the Giant was not a loss. The Giant's financial value apparently is insignificant compared to ownership of the 520.
...so is the 520 value $500? Has the 520 appreciated?
I find the deal fascinating.
In addition there are always fun vintage bikes you can pick up for next to nothing. If the OP wants to do that he can find a bike to restore and ride. It doesn't seem like he is too sentimental so it will be pretty gratifying.
My Uncle was in a similar situation a few weeks ago. he had a 1983 620 and was cleaning out his garage to put their house on the market. He decided that despite the memories of the old bike he really wanted something new and he gave it to me to work on and find another owner. Alan who posted earlier ended up with the bike and both my Uncle and I were happy it went to someone who would appreciate it. I could have gotten more money out of it, but I sold it for a great price becasue I didn't have to do all the work to it. It turned out great for everyone except my Uncle hasn't sold his house yet so he doesn't have a bike. LOL
Also I see no reason why this new bike won't be going strong years from now. The Old trek frames are great, but there is nothing wrong with these hybrid frames either. That giant is a nice bike that should serve him well.
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The main thing about steel, is that you can sandblast it and paint it over and over again. Each time is quite capable of looking better than the last time. You can upgrade to better components after each paint job. The bike will both look and feel like a new bike. You could go on and on like that for decades.
You simply can't do that with aluminum....
In ten years or less, that Escape will be on its way out, while the Trek 520, will just be getting its second breath!
You simply can't do that with aluminum....
In ten years or less, that Escape will be on its way out, while the Trek 520, will just be getting its second breath!
I just stripped and clear-coated a 10 year old head-shock type aluminum fork to go with my polished aluminum winter bike. The finish on that bike is going to be pretty easy to maintain.
Come to think of it, had the 520 been made of aluminum it wouldn't be rusting and perhaps not in need of refinishing at all. ;-)
Just picked out a random post to add my 2cts...DON'T DO IT!!!! My late 80s Fuji fg conversion has been sb/pc and is the best bike I own, hands down. Like Sixty said and I am paraphasing here, 'A comparable frameset would cost 1600.00 in today's market. Especially, CroMo steel.
My father-in-law left me a 1970 Raleigh Sport that's still a rideable machine. In fact, it's more than merely rideable...that's like damning it w/faint praise. It's a solid bike my wife and I use for people who come to stay at our cottage on which to make short forays around the rural area. Everyone loves the bike who rides it. Beyond routine maintenence, new tires and brake pads it's the same as it was over 40 years ago.
My father-in-law left me a 1970 Raleigh Sport that's still a rideable machine. In fact, it's more than merely rideable...that's like damning it w/faint praise. It's a solid bike my wife and I use for people who come to stay at our cottage on which to make short forays around the rural area. Everyone loves the bike who rides it. Beyond routine maintenence, new tires and brake pads it's the same as it was over 40 years ago.
They are coveted to the point that people will pay far more for them than they will for other vintage bikes that are as good or better. Miyata 1000s were very-very nice touring bikes, - a few years ago you might have to pay big bucks for one, but now they don't seem to command as much. You could probably get one for less than the dealer cost of a Giant Escape, - if you're patient. Some Univega Gran Turismo models were almost as nice as the Miyatas and probably at least as nice as the OP's 520, yet can be had for less than $200.
I've got candy apple red and silver Univega sport touring bike from the mid-80's that's in beautiful shape. I paid $75 for it and beyond a tune up and new tires, haven't done anything to it.
So my point is that unless you're a touring bike enthusiast that must have a 520, there's really no reason to hold on to one that you have no intention of using. Good quality vintage lugged steel bikes aren't in short supply.
I'm sure the LBS owner's bike enthusiast friends will be envious of his 520, but to the rest of the world, it's just another bike. I had a nice vintage Peugeot that I used to commute with. Peugeots have a certain caché and even the low end models can fetch a decent price around here on craigslist. A coworker came into my office looking for advice on what sort of bike to get for commuting. He looks over at my beautiful Peugeot and then says to me with surprise: "That's what you use? An old 10 speed?"
My guess is that the LBS owner gave away a new bike for what will essentially become a conversation piece.
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I'm sure the LBS owner's bike enthusiast friends will be envious of his 520, but to the rest of the world, it's just another bike. I had a nice vintage Peugeot that I used to commute with. Peugeots have a certain caché and even the low end models can fetch a decent price around here on craigslist. A coworker came into my office looking for advice on what sort of bike to get for commuting. He looks over at my beautiful Peugeot and then says to me with surprise: "That's what you use? An old 10 speed?"
My guess is that the LBS owner gave away a new bike for what will essentially become a conversation piece.
My guess is that the LBS owner gave away a new bike for what will essentially become a conversation piece.
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I am of the restore the 1985 Reynolds 531 bike school. You won’t find anything even close to it in frame quality for less than $1000. Most of my bikes are older than that. My favorite road bike is a 40 yrs. old Jack Taylor. It has already been restored once and I really need to do it again. Maybe after my current project. I am currently in the middle of a referb project where I am taking my 35 yr. old criterium bike, the first frame I ever built, and restoring it. It originally was all Campy with typical race geometry built with Columbus SP tubing. Super stiff. Great sprinter. I am going to update it with new wheels, derailleurs, etc, and see how suitable it is for casual road riding. It may be too stiff.
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If you wait until late Fall or winter, these types of bikes will sell for less.
The OP would have had to stick at least $100 and a lot of time into his 520 to be in as good of condition as the 520 listed above. As it was, he could have sold it in this market for maybe $300 to $350. Maybe. It's hard to get much for a bike that's not in good shape. So I think he got a good deal.
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My local craigslist has an '85 Trek 520 is great condition for $450 (would probably take $400) and a Sekai 2500 (Tange Champion double butted tubes) for $400. Also in excellent condition.
If you wait until late Fall or winter, these types of bikes will sell for less.
The OP would have had to stick at least $100 and a lot of time into his 520 to be in as good of condition as the 520 listed above. As it was, he could have sold it in this market for maybe $300 to $350. Maybe. It's hard to get much for a bike that's not in good shape. So I think he got a good deal.
If you wait until late Fall or winter, these types of bikes will sell for less.
The OP would have had to stick at least $100 and a lot of time into his 520 to be in as good of condition as the 520 listed above. As it was, he could have sold it in this market for maybe $300 to $350. Maybe. It's hard to get much for a bike that's not in good shape. So I think he got a good deal.
My $1000 limit was new. The dealer proposed swapping a $600 new bike. Used is a different story.
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But his bike is not new and you can find equivalent used bikes for much less. I guess I don't understand the argument.
If he were to wait for someone to trade him a new bike worth $1,000 for his 520, he'd be waiting a long time. As it was, the 520 was just taking up space, - not really worth anything in terms of utility to the OP.
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But apparently priceless in "prestige" according to some of our cycling comrades who care more about provenance than practicality.
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My two cents says you both are satisfied. Enjoy your new bike.
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The 1985 Trek 520 is a Reynolds 501 bike, not 531. In 1985, the Trek 520 was considered a bit of a low-end bicycle. Trek had two touring rigs, the 620 and 720, that were better and more expensive. I think they sold so many of the 520 models (they retailed for about $800) that the 520s are what we remember.
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My local craigslist has an '85 Trek 520 is great condition for $450 (would probably take $400) and a Sekai 2500 (Tange Champion double butted tubes) for $400. Also in excellent condition.
If you wait until late Fall or winter, these types of bikes will sell for less.
The OP would have had to stick at least $100 and a lot of time into his 520 to be in as good of condition as the 520 listed above. As it was, he could have sold it in this market for maybe $300 to $350. Maybe. It's hard to get much for a bike that's not in good shape. So I think he got a good deal.
If you wait until late Fall or winter, these types of bikes will sell for less.
The OP would have had to stick at least $100 and a lot of time into his 520 to be in as good of condition as the 520 listed above. As it was, he could have sold it in this market for maybe $300 to $350. Maybe. It's hard to get much for a bike that's not in good shape. So I think he got a good deal.
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For what it's worth: someone is San Jose is selling a Trek 520 for $165. There is no way I can buy another bike just now, but if Slim or someone wants a Trek 520 take a look at this ad:
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/3152296709.html
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/3152296709.html
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Interesting viewpoint. More importantly, through the decades, the 520 was the bike I had my first serious crash on; it was the first bike I rode over Loveland Pass, Battle Mountain, Freemont Pass, Berthoud, up and down Mt. Vernon Canyon, etc; it was the bike I did my first century on; it was the bike I owned when I married my sweet Bonnie. There's a lot of heritage there. But there's a thin line somewhere where we need to realize the difference between a physical object and the memories it invokes. It's really just a rusty hunk of metal, rubber, and plastics, and whether I hang it on a wall restored or not it's still just that. The memories are irreplaceable, but they will remain whether I have the bike or not. I'm turning 60, and I like my memories, but I will have them whether the 520 is in my garage or not. Meanwhile, there's a completely new "Fitness" bike to be had, and new memories to make! Life goes on!
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Good trade, IMO. Maybe you could have listed it on CL and gotten a better offer but then you have to wait for the right buyer to get better offers. Only a collector is going to give you that much for an old bike like that so your pool of possible buyers isn't all that big. I say given it was an easy trade and you got yourself a very suitable bike for your current usage in return, it was a good trade.
Hell, I if someone offered me a Misceo or Crosstrail for my old trek I would jump at the deal. Only because I know I would never get around to restoring the bike and would like someone who's going to enjoy it have it and I get a bike in return that I will enjoy.
Hell, I if someone offered me a Misceo or Crosstrail for my old trek I would jump at the deal. Only because I know I would never get around to restoring the bike and would like someone who's going to enjoy it have it and I get a bike in return that I will enjoy.