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Old 08-06-12, 10:39 PM
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suggestions for 700c tires and rims.

I found this rim called Aeromax that apparently has a msrp of $250, and it's selling for 100. Seems too good to be true, but the reviews usually don't lie. What do you think?

Also, I'm looking for 700x25c tires, and my head is spinning right now. This is my first time buying bike tires, and I don't really know what to look for. they all look the same to me. The two favorite that keep popping up in my searches are continental gator skin and specialized armadillo, but those tires are $40-50 each, and I would like to keep my cost down. My two most important factors are durability and cost, everything else being secondary.

I'd appreciate some suggestions. thanks
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Old 08-06-12, 11:11 PM
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For cheap, long-lasting tires, I like Michelin Dynamics. As far as wheels go, the Aeromax rims have a bad reputation but I can't comment on them personally. However, wheels are one item you absolutely should not skimp on: for commuting and general riding you can't go wrong with Mavic Open Pros laced to 105 or Ultegra hubs, just note that if you're not already familiar with truing wheels, you should buy from a source that lists their wheels as 'hand built.' These will cost slightly more but machine-built wheels often need some careful truing before they're rideable.
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Old 08-06-12, 11:31 PM
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I have used 700 x 25c Gatorskins + Mr. Tuffy's for some time now, with great results and tires roll nice and seem really light and fast. Only one flat I can remember in the past 2 years, I think.

I tried Armadillos for a time before I started with the Gatorskins, but got lotsa flats with them.
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may I ask what makes the aeromax have a bad reputation? I can't find a lot of feedback on them, but the ones I did manage to find were good ones.

Also, I've never trued a wheel, but I'm watching youtube videos and reading sheldon's blog to see how it's done. I'm just waiting on my spoke wrench to arrive so I can practice on a wheel that I never use.
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Old 08-07-12, 12:05 AM
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My own feeling on them is that they're not good a option for commuting for two major reasons: low spoke count and high-flange rims. Those qualities can make sense for road racing because they produce a lighter wheel, but deep rims like that tend to have a harsh ride quality and low-spoke count means that the wheel will be prone to going out of true and ultimately wearing out much faster if the tension isn't very precisely balanced across the wheel. For commuting, having reliable, comfortable wheels is more important than saving a few grams (even more so if you're planning to carry cargo).
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Old 08-07-12, 12:34 AM
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well the double walled rim has to count for something too. and shouldn't higher flange rims be more stable? shorter spokes, more stability from the rim walls?

also, the michelin dynamics tires seem to get a lot of complaints about flats, which is the one thing I want to avoid. It's like half of the people give it 5 stars and everyone else give it 1 star. But if that's the best value I can get for that kind of money, then I might as well take it.
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Old 08-07-12, 12:50 AM
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Mavic Open Sport are a pretty good 'bang for the buck' rim. Gatorskins are long wearing and quite flat resistant, but can be a bit slick in the rain. If you don't ride on rainy days then they are wonderful.
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I ordered 2x Vittoria Zaffiro Pro II from amazon for almost $50. It's got good reviews, and it's really cheap compared to other tubes.

grand total of ~$256 give or take upgrading my bike's wheel setup and brake systems. *whew* just in time for last semester of school too.

ziemas, you have a thing for goats?

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Old 08-07-12, 05:22 AM
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ziemas, you have a thing for goats?
They're tasty little fellows....
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It may not be what you're looking for anyway, but I have a suggestion against a tire - the Vittoria Randonneur Cross. It was actually pretty decent - a little heavy, but for a commuter who cares about a few grams, and the flat resistance is good. However, it's an absolute bear to get on and off the tire. I actually had to get the shop to do it for me. I just replaced one of them (had a flat after about 800 miles, thought it was a gash in the tire) with a Continental Sport Contact, the Conti went on pretty easily.

The Sport Contact is totally slick - there is a little tread for a water channel, but flat resistance and life are supposed to be good. I think they make them in 28mm, you might check them out.
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I have the Vittoria Zaffiro's (basic model, not the pro) on my road bike and they are pretty darn good. The set I am currently riding on is somewhere close to 2000 miles on them and the rear is going to need replacing soon. They have some decent tread for cornering, but it's not deep and the centerline is smooth after just a few miles. They normally can be found on sale for $15-17.

Have some Panaracer Pasela tourguards on my tandem and if I had a 700C commuter bike, they would be a good choice. $20-25 each if found on sale.
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Have some Panaracer Pasela tourguards on my tandem and if I had a 700C commuter bike, they would be a good choice. $20-25 each if found on sale.
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I just switched from Schwalbe Durano Plus to Pasela Tourguards, and love them. A lot. The Duranos are amazing too - bulletproof and fast - but the Paselas are more in your price range, make more sense for commuting, and more comfortable. One of the best tires with puncture protection I've ever ridden.

And the Panaracer T-Serv is basically the same thing as the Pasela TG, but with a black sidewall (but a few dollars more expensive)
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when are these things usually on sale?

also, what's the difference between zaffiro pro and zaffiro? are the pros suppose to be more durable, or just fasteR?

However, it's an absolute bear to get on and off the tire

I can imagine that being a problem for 700x23c, but 700x25c shouldn't be a problem. although 23 is the standard width, 25 mm is probably more beneficial for both long and short distance commuters.

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Old 08-07-12, 03:40 PM
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My commute bike has Mavic A719 rims, and Schwalbe Marathon Plus tires. I believe that the Aeromax rims are much lighter weight, more expensive and designed for training and racing - different set of criteria than what you want for commuting. The A719 rim is very solid and durable, with machined braking surfaces. The Schwalbe Marathon Plus wears very slowly, and doesn't get flats.
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regardless of the type of rims, the aeromax is actually cheaper than all of the rims that were suggested to me, ironically enough. we'll see, I'll try to remember to post some sort of review when I get them and test them, not that it'll matter much since I'm a noob.
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Are you getting a pair of wheels or a pair of rims?

I'd pass on that Aeromax paired spoke crap.

36 hole Mavic CXP22 + Tiagra hubs $119
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I ride Dyads and 35mm tires--I've tried several, and think Pasela Tourguards are my favorite.

Great combo, and my wheelset cost about $300
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