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Old 10-16-12, 01:20 PM
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Finally, somebody created a winter chain for somebody like me.

It's called the "Willful Neglect"

I've heard that it's electroplated with zinc-chromium or something like that (I'm not a chemist). No idea on price or if it's actually available.

Based on name alone, it seems like the perfect product.
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45Nrth is bring out lots of interesting looking products. Their merino wool balaclava with beak and ear flap cycling cap with a beak got my attention last week. Just need a product to prevent a freehub from freezing, I'm thinking of packing a butane torch with my tools this winter.
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KMC offers a rustproof chain that we have been using for a number of years in all kinds of nasty conditions... it has held up exceptionally well.

I use regular chains and just keep them clean and lubricated but I know that for some, this is an area of neglect.
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It gets cold enough to freeze your freehub?

Dayum....I'm thinking at that point, it's time to get something combustion powered!
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Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
It gets cold enough to freeze your freehub?

Dayum....I'm thinking at that point, it's time to get something combustion powered!
I discovered that with synthetic lubrication a free hub will still start to fail at - 52F.

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the willful neglect is for derailleur drive-trains, but they also have the slug for SS and half-slug for SS with vertical drops.

i'm running a IGH with vertical drops and an EBB, so i guess i'd get the half-slug? this particular chain looks weird, no?



Half-Slug:


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Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane View Post
It gets cold enough to freeze your freehub?

Dayum....I'm thinking at that point, it's time to get something combustion powered!
I've only had it happen a couple of times and I was within a couple of blocks of work anyway both times. Don't remember what the hub was but I've been out in colder weather with other hubs without any trouble.

It's an odd feeling. Sort of the anti-fixie.
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
the willful beglect is for derailleur drive-trains, but they also have the slug for SS and half-slug for SS with vertical drops.

i'm running a IGH with vertical drops and an EBB, so i guess i'd get the half-slug? this particular chain looks weird, no?



Half-Slug:

With an EBB you probably don't need the half-slug. That is an odd beast of a chain. It's an entire chain of half-links.

It would be nice if they sold the slug with a link or two of the half-slug.
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With an EBB you probably don't need the half-slug. That is an odd beast of a chain. It's an entire chain of half-links.
i'm trying to understand the concept behind a chain with only half-links. is their belief that half-link chain will take longer to get stretched out? if so, that seems counter-intuitive to me.
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
KMC offers a rustproof chain that we have been using for a number of years in all kinds of nasty conditions... it has held up exceptionally well.

I use regular chains and just keep them clean and lubricated but I know that for some, this is an area of neglect.
I've used the KMC Ruster Buster chains and have been happy with them. I could never find one for 8 or 9 speed drivetrains though. I seem to remember them being marginal with 7 (or maybe that was 8).
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
I discovered that with synthetic lubrication a free hub will still start to fail at - 52F.

HOW did you discover this ??? Not by riding I hope!
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan View Post
i'm trying to understand the concept behind a chain with only half-links. is their belief that half-link chain will take longer to get stretched out? if so, that seems counter-intuitive to me.
Don't know. I'm assuming it's just to make it easy to get the perfect length but one half-link is fine for that. I used a half-link on another bike and I was sort of bothered by the fact that it didn't match the other links. Maybe they're just perfectionists that way.
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The 45nrth.com site is unreachable from here.

65er, so are you saying that a neglected KMC rust-proof chain will result in no rust? I'm not that neglectful, but I'll try one. Any drawbacks to this chain?
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