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Old 10-17-12, 10:56 AM
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Is this tire toast?

Got a large glass cut in the tire this morning and had to boot it. Is this tire toast? I hear some people will use rubber cement for small gashes.

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The white part is the business card I used.
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I had one like that.

Used a Parks Boot.

The boot held for 300 miles.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...BMC85mi004.jpg

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what happened after 300 miles?

What tires you using by the way?
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Boot it. As long as the tube is not exposed (and well protected) you should be fine. There does not look to be a bulge or any other tire damage.
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That would be a Gatorskin in the picture.

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what happened after 300 miles?

What tires you using by the way?
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Is there any difference between a Park's boot and a business car? I have never picked up or felt what the Parks boot feels like.
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Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
what happened after 300 miles?

What tires you using by the way?
You Cross Posting is killing me.

I glued in a rubber patch and will use it on a rear wheel and see how long it lasts.
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Is there any difference between a Park's boot and a business car? I have never picked up or felt what the Parks boot feels like.
$3.00
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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
You Cross Posting is killing me.

I glued in a rubber patch and will use it on a rear wheel and see how long it lasts.
Ah but one gets different answers depending on where you post. Look at the cross post in the bike mechanic page. Proves the point. I bet if I posted it in the touring section, it would be answered differently.
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You could try filling the gap with epoxy.
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I'd put a tube patch on the inside of the tire and ride it. Worst case, you'll find that it flats and you end up replacing it anyway. Best case, the tire keeps rolling.

I tried Shoe Goo to repair a tire with a gash like that once. It didn't actually give me problems in around 1000 miles of post-repair use, but it was ugly -- like having a wart on the tire.
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I agree with the tube patch. Take the largest one you've got and apply it to the inside of the tire. Squirt some glue into the cut from the outside. Let dry overnite. Should be good to go and ride the heck out of it.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
You could try filling the gap with epoxy.
That's what I did with my gatorskin and by the way I hate my gatorskin, sorry, useless comment but I had to say it, I think they are strongly overated.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
I'd put a tube patch on the inside of the tire and ride it. Worst case, you'll find that it flats and you end up replacing it anyway. Best case, the tire keeps rolling.

I tried Shoe Goo to repair a tire with a gash like that once. It didn't actually give me problems in around 1000 miles of post-repair use, but it was ugly -- like having a wart on the tire.
lol. thank you! I am trying rubber cement and will see how it rolls..... no pun intended. lol
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That's what I did with my gatorskin and by the way I hate my gatorskin, sorry, useless comment but I had to say it, I think they are strongly overated.
I am up for suggestions of tires. I am a big guy, around 290 and carry a lot to and from work. The area I ride in has a lot of glass.... it should be nicknamed the glass gardens. lol

What you suggest?
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
You could try filling the gap with epoxy.
Thanks. Giving rubber cement a try.
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I am up for suggestions of tires. I am a big guy, around 290 and carry a lot to and from work. The area I ride in has a lot of glass.... it should be nicknamed the glass gardens. lol

What you suggest?
I don't know if you will like my sugestion but since I tried an expensive tire brand (my dear gatorskin) and feel that I don't have the quality I paid for I never spend more than 20-25$ on a tire, right now I ride a serfas seca 700x23, 4000 kms since I bought it, still look very good, not a single flat. I don't feel that the big names will give a lot more for twice the money or more.
By the way I'm at 215-220 and carrying about 40 pounds of junk in my rubbermaid container/pannier.
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Got a 40-50 MPH VERY steep downhill on my commute and will not ride any tire if I am even having a conversation in my head about it being "ok."
That said, it is probably fine at moderate speeds with a boot and it is your own neck.
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Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
I am up for suggestions of tires. I am a big guy, around 290 and carry a lot to and from work. The area I ride in has a lot of glass.... it should be nicknamed the glass gardens. lol

What you suggest?
I do not like getting flats! (who does??)
That's why I am willing to take the slight weight hit on using Kevlar belted tires.
Although I haven't tried "Gatorskins", I have bought a couple sets of Specialized "All Condition Armadillo" and Bontragher "Race All Weather Hardcase".
Both have been great, only having to replace them when the tread disappears and the belts start to show.
This is usually around 7,000 km (on the rear), then I rotate the front tire to back rim duties and get about another 3,000 km out of it.
I'm using 28c Bontraghers on my hybrid and 25c Armidillos on my road bike.
I've never had a roadside flat with either brand.
Although I try to avoid it as much as possible ... I have ridden through a lot of broken glass with bold impunity (so far LOL!).
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You should post a better photo, one that is in focus.
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Originally Posted by chefisaac View Post
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That's what I did with my gatorskin and by the way I hate my gatorskin, sorry, useless comment but I had to say it, I think they are strongly overated.
I am up for suggestions of tires. I am a big guy, around 290 and carry a lot to and from work. The area I ride in has a lot of glass.... it should be nicknamed the glass gardens. lol

What you suggest?
I use Gatorskins and haven't had a problem with them. The amount of riding that I do I've worn them out.

My bike came with Maxis, and I had problems with them. Switched to Specialized Armadillos, the only real problem I had with them were tubes blowing out and blowing a hole in them.

But as I've said other then literally wearing 'em out I haven't had a problem with my Gatorskins.
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Got a 40-50 MPH VERY steep downhill on my commute and will not ride any tire if I am even having a conversation in my head about it being "ok."
I saw a guy have his front tire blow out on a downhill section in a 'cross race a couple of weekends ago. It wasn't pretty, but at least he was on dirt and grass.
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Originally Posted by KLiNCK View Post
I do not like getting flats! (who does??)
That's why I am willing to take the slight weight hit on using Kevlar belted tires.
Although I haven't tried "Gatorskins", I have bought a couple sets of Specialized "All Condition Armadillo" and Bontragher "Race All Weather Hardcase".
Both have been great, only having to replace them when the tread disappears and the belts start to show.
This is usually around 7,000 km (on the rear), then I rotate the front tire to back rim duties and get about another 3,000 km out of it.
I'm using 28c Bontraghers on my hybrid and 25c Armidillos on my road bike.
I've never had a roadside flat with either brand.
Although I try to avoid it as much as possible ... I have ridden through a lot of broken glass with bold impunity (so far LOL!).
I picked up the belts yesterday. Excited to try them. They come in a pair so do you put one on the front and one on the back? I was thinking perhaps the back was the only one that needed it. Only had a front flat once and that was on my long distance bike.
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Originally Posted by KLiNCK View Post
I do not like getting flats! (who does??)
That's why I am willing to take the slight weight hit on using Kevlar belted tires.
Although I haven't tried "Gatorskins", I have bought a couple sets of Specialized "All Condition Armadillo" and Bontragher "Race All Weather Hardcase".
Both have been great, only having to replace them when the tread disappears and the belts start to show.
This is usually around 7,000 km (on the rear), then I rotate the front tire to back rim duties and get about another 3,000 km out of it.
I'm using 28c Bontraghers on my hybrid and 25c Armidillos on my road bike.
I've never had a roadside flat with either brand.
Although I try to avoid it as much as possible ... I have ridden through a lot of broken glass with bold impunity (so far LOL!).
And do you think it is worth keeping the tire I have, moving it to the front and putting on a belt?
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