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Old 10-19-12, 07:46 AM
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Repetitive harassment from same driver

How do I handle this?

So, I ride the same route every day. I've been on this same route for about two years without much conflict. There is an area I ride through down a 6 lane highway approaching a freeway on ramp. I take the lane in this area for safety. It's 5am, so very little traffic and PLENTY of extra lanes for cars to pass.

On Tuesday, I had a guy in a Cadillac make a dangerous pass as I approached the turn onto this street. He stopped at the light and I continued past him on my right turn. He then turned right and as he passed he honked and yelled "get out of the f%€king way!".

Next day, same spot, same time, same driver, lays on the horn as he passed. Day three, same thing.

Problem is, it's too dark to get his license plate. A camera wouldn't do any good in this light. Also, it's a fast moving area with timed lights, so my odds of catching him at a light are low (also, I've seen him accelerate through yellow lights).

So what should I do? Law enforcement in this area is ok, but not likely to do much with this little info. The first time I shrugged it off. The second time I was mad. After the third time, I'm plain nervous. I saw him make erratic, dangerous passes around other drivers once he passed me.

If I catch him at a light I plan to ask him to simply give me space and not harass me, but i doubt that will help, maybe even enraging him more. I'm not afraid to go toe-to-toe with anyone, but I don't want to go bumper to fender either.

Any suggestions?
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Old 10-19-12, 07:48 AM
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Oh, and just for my death records. Fremont, CA. Stevenson Blvd. Silver Cadillac CTS or STS.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:03 AM
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You don't want to escalate with a stupid sociopath especially if he has the upper hand physically, such as a caddy vs bicycle. I think they normally give up after a while if you ignore them, but you never know. Continuing harassment, if he becomes dangerous, I'd be tempted to take a photo of his car and license and also get audio/video evidence of aggressive driving. Then call the cops on him.

Or vary your schedule a few minutes so that it's not every day.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:04 AM
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He's driving a Caddy man. He DOES own the road. You're an irritating speed bump.

I'd talk to the cops and ask them what they suggest.

If people are passing too close, I move left.

I had an issue once with a repeat offender, in my case a semi that thought it was a good idea to unload his air horn as he was passing me in the dark every morning around the same place. After 3 days or so I was able to recognize him coming and I started waving at him before he had a chance. He stopped honking, I assume because he realized he wasn't scaring me.

A better/brighter headlight may allow you to get his plate.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:06 AM
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If he's doing it every day, just have a cop waiting around the corner.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nashvillwill View Post
How do I handle this?
Can you leave 5 to 10 minutes earlier? If you can, do it for a couple of days and see what happens, hopefully the motorist and your schedule will not coincide.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nashvillwill View Post
Problem is, it's too dark to get his license plate. A camera wouldn't do any good in this light.
I'd expect that a still camera with the flash set to fire would capture the license plate. It would probably also let him know that you photographed him which could be either bad (enrage him more) or good (make him aware that he's not anonymous).

I'd try out the camera with a friend driving by first to see how well it works and how best to mount or hold it.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:40 AM
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helmet cam and helmet light.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
I'd talk to the cops and ask them what they suggest.
+1

I would at least get his license plate and phone the police about it. They may do nothing or you may discover that the guy has a history of this.

If they seem inclined to do nothing, ask them what you should do...

Worth taking 10 minutes to do this.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:47 AM
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Why not speak to the local law enforcement officers, you never know if they decide they may want to tag along for a ride one morning unless you ask.
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Old 10-19-12, 08:58 AM
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File a police report. If he's at the same place at the same time all the time, and should the cops give a rat's ass, they can park a cop at the right place, right time.

Otherwise, next time you see this going down, make sure you're behind the guy when approaching the red light and make sure you get his license. Then follow through with the above. Of just wait at that corner for the next time he cruises by and be noticeable taking pictures of his car and tags, or merely be prepared with a notepad to jot down his tag number. And then file a report with the police.
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Old 10-19-12, 09:04 AM
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I normally have trust issues with my local LEO's but this is something you would want to take to them. If they don't do anything themselves, ask what they would do if in your shoes. That actually might make them think for a second then actually help you out.
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Old 10-19-12, 09:13 AM
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Fremont police are pretty strict and I can't imagine them totally ignoring this if you can get some hard evidence to them. I agree with others suggesting getting a picture or video. Video showing his action of shouting at you would be consider as road rage. As long as you don't do anything to escalate the situation, the Police may take notice if you present them the video.

Stevenson blvd near the Freeway can get hectic at times. Folks are speeding in anticipation to get on the freeway and those getting off are speeding. If that was not enough, as I recall there is a slight incline because it is an overpass. That alone will slow you down while making motorist feeling like you are pedaling too slow. The good news is the timed lights. On some of these Bay Area overpass, you will get cars in group all waiting at the intersection for their green lights. Once they get the green, that group will clear leaving the road empty for a brief moment. The chances of this is more so in the morning hours. Forget the afternoon rush. You can wait it out at the nearest intersection before the incline for those car to pass before you proceed on, hopefully allowing you some gap between cars including that harassing jerk.
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Old 10-19-12, 09:16 AM
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Thanks for the input folks.

I may try taking a still shot camera with me and have it ready along that stretch. Like I said, it's pretty dark for a video camera (even with the 1000 lumens I'm running). So far, he's been moving fast enough so that I couldn't catch his plate.

Ive thought about going to the police, but I want to at least have a license number to give them. If feel like if I say "a silver Cadillac", they are going to look at me like an idiot.

As far as changing my schedule, I can't really do that. I'm at that location at that time because of the train schedule and my work schedule. Besides, I'm not going to change my life because of one crazy motorist. I just want it to stop. I don't plan to confront him, but I would like to see him at least long enough to get his license plate and a look at him.
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Old 10-19-12, 09:29 AM
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Even if it looks too dark, you could try to use photoshop/gimp to brighten a photo enough to read the license.
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Old 10-19-12, 09:48 AM
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I would imagine the flash bouncing off the reflective plate would be enough to read it... You can also set you bike up so the light is shining on the road to help..
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Old 10-19-12, 09:52 AM
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Will, please call the cops and let us know what they suggest.

If it's consistent, maybe you can get 30% orf the plate one day, 70% the next...

If the cops are not helpful and this jackass is consistent, I might even drive over there to take pix too.
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Old 10-19-12, 09:54 AM
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Can you file a police report without knowing the plate number?
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Old 10-19-12, 10:36 AM
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I would try and get the license plate by using a flash camera. A go-pro would be even better. If he is doing this repeatedly in NY it would constitute a course of conduct from which you reasonable fear for your physical safety, which is a crime. You may be able to sign a charge with the local PD. A lot of this depends how service oriented your local PD is and how well they tend to investigate these things. I would definitely go talk to one of them and see what they suggest. Make sure when you do you let them know that you are afraid of this guy (if in fact you are - I know I would be). A-holes can be scary behind the wheel.
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Old 10-19-12, 11:33 AM
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If it is repeated did they remove the plates from the car?
why don't you make note of the plate number.. ?
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I'll point out a good bluff might also solve the problem. If the perp driver sees the flash from a camera it might be enough to yank him back to reality that what he was doing was a "really bad Idea" for maintaining his anonymity.
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Contact your local TV station... might be funny seeing the asshats behavior being shown to all as they try to interview him after following him to work.
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post
Can you file a police report without knowing the plate number?
Yes, I don't see why not.
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Old 10-19-12, 12:51 PM
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Can you file a police report without knowing the plate number?
Yes, but it would be more helpful if you have it. The difference between cops having to make some effort to find the guy and them showing up at his house while he's home to talk about it with him. If they care enough to follow up in the first place... and having a plate number makes things real easy for them to follow up...
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